Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

Available now.

https://www.amazon.com/Case-White-In.../dp/147283495X

Usual disclaimer,
Ed

A bit tardy I would say.

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

Seems to be a popular topic of late - released in September 2019 is First To Fight: The Polish War 1939 by Roger Moorhouse:

https://www.amazon.com/First-Fight-P...s=books&sr=1-1

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

80th Anniversary I suspect.

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

Anyone read these both?

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

I started First To Fight a few days ago and so far it is very good. It isn't restricted to the ground war and covers both sides. Seems to have received good reviews.

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

The Stone & Stone site has this to say about Case White:


The best book on the opening campaign of the war, fully integrating German and Polish—and Soviet—perspectives on the ground and in the air, and including ample material about the broader context of strategy, diplomacy, planning, preparation, and the outbreak of hostilities.

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

Do you have a link for the review?

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

I'm sorry but the above was all they posted. There was no comprehensive review.


Ed

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

I just received this book it seems very good like the others of this author
Robert Forczyk is a serious military historian and a good writer

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

in September 2019 is First To Fight: The Polish War 1939 by Roger Moorhouse:

Yes, the book has a Polish edition in parallel.

Knowing the subject, and write many times on this subject, which raises the British author, I have a separate opinion.

I do not share these beautiful, round and empty statements.
The book is actually nice and well read. It is composed of many different statements from both sides.
Unfortunately for me, the book is actually uncritical and without reflection.
As a Pole, I should be very proud, and my Polish, national, patriotic ego should grow to the size of a balloon that the British author writes about Poles in 1939 so beautiful, nice, pathetic and sublime.

However, as a sober person, standing firmly with two feet on the ground and criticizing this war and its various aspects in 1939, this position is very weak.

Based on this reading, "I do not know" so far why this "big and strong state" so quickly lost this war, tragically lost in the first 8 days of its beginning. After 17 days there was a tragic Polish final! Why? You certainly won't learn from this book.

Despite this, it is very nice to read, full of descriptions of emotions, devotion to the spirit of the tragedy of Poles, but this is not enough for me. Certainly William Shakespeare writes better about moral dilemmas, dilemmas of emotions and human tragedy.

From the point of view of air war over Poland, the author of this topic does not understand, he is completely ignorant of it. The author writes about land fights, though weakly. He doesn't understand the military aspects of this war.

The book is nevertheless nice, round, without edges, written with proper political correctness. Many Poles can certainly feel very appreciated that the British author writes so well about the 1939 war in Poland and Poles.

For me it's bland, indigestible, untrue and false

Regards,

Mirosław Wawrzyński, Poland

A few texts about September 1939, which I am author

M. Wawrzyński, Lądowania samolotów polskich i niemieckich w ZSRR przed 17 września 1939 r., [w:] Lotnictwo nr 6/2019, s.76-80.



M. Wawrzyński, Skazani na porażkę. Klęska polskiego Lotnictwa Wojskowego we wrześniu 1939 roku, [w:] Technika Wojskowa Historia. nr 5/2017, s. 28-37.


M. Wawrzyński, Brygada Pościgowa we obronie Warszawy, [w:]Technika Wojskowa Historia. Numer Specjalny nr 4/2017, s. 4-15.


M. Wawrzyński, Obrona przeciwlotnicza czynna Warszawy we wrześniu 1939 roku, Października 2015, w Wojsko i Technika Historia nr 1/2015, s. 32-47,


M. Wawrzyński, Lecz dziś widzę Wielką Warszawę. Obrona stolicy we wrześniu 1939 roku, [w:] Poligon 4(38)/2013, s. 20-35.


M. Wawrzyński, Czerwone gwiazdy – sojusznik czarnych krzyży nad Polską. Lotnictwo sowieckie nad Kresami wrzesień - październik 1939, Agencja Wydawnicza CB, Warszawa 2008, s. 217.

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

Hello Mirek,




I write this to you, to other Poles and to interested historians. The wounds inflicted on Poland during the Second World War by the Russians and Germans need some context. And I beg the indulgence of those reading.


One year before my father was born, the Polish Army retook land annexed by the Russians. My father was a member of Polish ground forces when the Germans attacked in 1939. He was captured but was not treated as a POW, but as an enemy alien. Both he and my mother were taken to Germany and became forced laborers.


My mother was at a checkpoint one day in Germany. The young guard pointed his rifle at her and yelled at her. She was the enemy. What was she doing in Germany? Fortunately, an older officer was there who sternly disabused this young man of any wrong ideas.


Few in the West know that Polish forced laborers were required to wear a large letter P on their coats during the war. After the war, my mother was in a location she only referred to as "camp." An American officer came to see her. He spoke perfect German. He asked her what her nationality was. When she said, Polish, he said, "I don't believe you." Why? "Your German is too good." She showed him letters from home. Satisfied, he left.


In order to not offend our 'ally for the moment,' especially during the Cold War, and due to the extreme secrecy practiced by the Soviet Union, little factual information about the situation in Poland has reached the West since 1945. Even American intelligence took more than 50 years to release certain documents held by them. Certain of which may have been held longer had the Soviet Union not collapsed.


Few readers know that the seizure of national archives by conquering forces was a requirement. Once this information was evaluated, it could be misused to pass laws and decrees and to deny legal action against them. After all, how could the newly conquered nation complain if they had no proof in the way of original documents?


In France, once American forces appeared in large number, French newspapers began to publish stories that portrayed the Americans in a positive light. Calming the general population had to occur.


As far as the ground war, I recommend the books of General Anders. Captured by Russian forces and taken to the Lubyanka prison, it was hoped he would join the Russian side. He would spend his time looking for missing Polish soldiers. Later, it was revealed that Polish troops, along with some civilians, were massacred at Katyn forest. The Russians blamed it on the Germans. My father told me the Russians used captured German weapons to carry out the killings. General Anders would join British forces.


As far as the air war, it appears that the best books have been published only in Polish. Another example is Czech aviation. The finest material is published in the Czech Republic. Slovakia went on to become a separate country. I find my attempts to learn Czech to be more difficult than other European languages.


A few books by General Anders.


Katyn, published in French, 1946.


An Army in Exile: The Story of the Second Polish Corps, 1949.





Regards,
Ed

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

A review of this book from the Stone & Stone site that I find to be slightly below professional quality, but otherwise well done. It could have used a bit of editing which would have avoided the use of word combinations like "must have." In other words, there is no need to guess when you can find out.


http://books.stonebooks.com/reviews/191117/

Re: Case White: The Invasion of Poland 1939
 

First To Fight: The Polish War 1939 by Roger Moorhouse

In the case of the book by Roger Moorhaus, which I have already read in Polish, it is 100%. certainly its title does not match the content. It scares me that certainly a huge part of it is not truthful, it is certainly not objective.

It is terrible what I write, but the author's ignorance and incompetence is shocking. Mr. Moorhouse creates great false myths about this war.

Such a disastrous, improper presentation of the war in Poland in September and October 1939 arouses my amazement that it is possible to create and publish such a bad book in 2019!

Such an extremely stupid narrative narrative during the communist era in Poland, no one dared to write, the British author Roger Moorhouse was needed.

One thing is efficient and nice to be able to write; and quite different is to know what and how to write to make it true.

M. Wawrzyński