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TigerTimon 20th November 2019 18:52

JG 51 - need help with hand-writing
 
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Hello,


who can help me decipher this hand-writing on the back of the picture? I came across it on a militaria website, gielsmilitaria.com. The 109 is from JG 51.

Now I am trying to find out the crash, just out of curiousity. This looks like a Bf 109 Friedrich to me, and I wonder if the year 1944 on the back of the picture is the year in which this crash took place.


Kind regards,


Timon

Stefan 20th November 2019 19:29

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Meine schöne Me-109-Nacht wurde über ??? abgeschossen. Aber mein Vogel hielt durch und ich auch.
My nice Me-109-Night was shot down over???
But my bird held on and me also.

Regards
Stefan

ouidjat 20th November 2019 19:44

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Yes, this is a Bf 109 F-2 of 1./JG51, Smolensk area most probably on M1 highway, Summer 1941.
I don't know what "he" is speaking about on picture's back.
Regards,
Franck.

climax31 20th November 2019 19:45

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Meine schöne Me-109-Nacht wurde über Kanal abgeschossen. Aber mein Vogel hielt durch und ich auch.
My nice Me-109-Night was shot down over???
But my bird held on and me also.

TigerTimon 20th November 2019 20:03

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Thank you Stefan and Franck. Interesting. Maybe the sentence goes like this?
wurde über Kanal abgeschossen.


Where could the word Nacht come from? Did he possibly fly nightly operations with this machine?

ouidjat 20th November 2019 20:17

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Timon, all the photos - they are numerous - of this crashed machine have been taken by troops passing by.
I'd be very surprised if the pilot was the owner of one of this pics. As I said I do not understand what's the link between this machine and the text.
Most probably is talking about "other" nights ...

sidney 20th November 2019 20:17

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Dated 19.07.1944? The Bf 109 F-2 on the photo was lost in summer 1941.

Perhaps the website gielsmilitaria.com mismatched the photo and the writing overleaf.

TigerTimon 20th November 2019 20:32

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Another view of this machine. Nice Panzer in the background, possible a picture from a tank crew member... You are right Franck.
https://gielsmilitaria.com/image/cac...950x1000_0.jpg

Stefan 21st November 2019 22:11

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My interpretation is, that the aircraft was
hit above the channel. So the pilot was happy
that the plane made it to the coast and he survived.
No idea about the date.

Regards
Stefan

RT 22nd November 2019 10:19

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Writing is fake !!


Rémi

ouidjat 22nd November 2019 11:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RT (Post 278262)
Writing is fake !!


Rémi

Not bad! Because it's written ABOVE the glue ? :)

RT 22nd November 2019 15:36

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I hv not noted that good point !!,

If all hv to return to the eves nd if you hv to joined the Lwf, try the recce troops seems you hv a right "Holzauge" .


Rémi

Raimo Malkamäki 23rd November 2019 20:12

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Hi all,

just for info that another pic of this JG 51 109 F can be found in the book by Richard von Rosen "Als Panzeroffizier in Ost und West", page 79.
It states the location as "after leaving Bobruisk".

Von Rosen served in Panzerregiment 35, 4. Panzerdivision.

Please see attached pic.

Br Raimo

TigerTimon 23rd November 2019 22:57

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Very interesting Raimo, thanks!


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