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Mattcom 4th January 2020 18:31

Captured Dh Moth
 
Hello every body :)
I would like to know if one you know in wich book the picture below was published, or best, where i can find a Hd scan...
It's, no surprise, a DH Leopard Moth captured by the Lutwaffe at Bordeaux Airfield late june 1940...
I really like to find it because i am preparing an article about the french unit who fly this kind of british plane in may/june 1940.
Anyway if you know/have picture of moth family (Leopard, Hornet, Tiger) in the same state (captured somewhere in France) it would be a great surprise :-)
Big big thanks for your help...

Matt Comas

https://i.servimg.com/u/f45/13/49/83/98/moth_210.jpg

bn785371 4th January 2020 21:44

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Hope it is a good one.

Von Alles 5th January 2020 10:39

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I am afraid it is not a DH but a Caudron 282/2 PHALENE, c/n6840.65 F-AMST

Mattcom 5th January 2020 11:17

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Hello
Yes, it's not a DH but a Caudron
Anyway very very interesting
This plane was property of Aero Club de Dieppe and then of Marcel Legendre /Bois-Obert
After requisition the only thing i know is thaht he was driven to Nevers by French DALAC in march 1940

Thanks ;-)

Matt

Kaiyan 5th January 2020 13:49

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you did say Tiger as well right???

There are many others cant say if this came from French / Norwegian or Austrian sources..

Mattcom 5th January 2020 14:52

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Hmmm interesting
Yes only one Tiger
It could be this one...
A picture in french camouflage will be published ;-)
Thanks !

Matt

Von Alles 5th January 2020 18:43

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This one ?

Mattcom 5th January 2020 19:10

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:o i do not think so
GM+Os is most probably ex french one.
This one is in unit.
Planes in Bordeaux, like the Leopard below, only received cross on fuselage and wings.

Anyway, big big thanks for your research :-)

Matt

Snautzer 6th January 2020 13:23

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I have a DH89 Dragon Rapide in German service. Over the years i have seen a few of the moth family on my trawl on Ebay

Leendert 6th January 2020 14:33

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There also was the Belgian Leopard Moth OO-GEJ captured by the Geramans in 1940, but then at Montpellier...

Regards,
Leendert

Mattcom 6th January 2020 16:47

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Hello Leendert
I have no info about the belgian Moth, but it seems very surprising that he was captured in Montpellier.
Montpellier was in "free zone" under french control. German arrives there only in 1942.
Anyway i can be wrong. May be belgian planes in free zone were given to germans ?
I have no trace of them in french papers in july 40 when all plane of the free zone were checked.

Matt

Mattcom 6th January 2020 16:49

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Hello @Snautzer
Dragon Rapide must be an english one. They left some of them in north of France, some in good state (pictures show that) in Orleans for example.

Matt

Snautzer 7th January 2020 14:01

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Like this one : https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...EAAOSw07ZeAQej


https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YpEAA...ej/s-l1600.jpg

Nick Beale 7th January 2020 14:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattcom (Post 280594)
Hello @Snautzer
Dragon Rapide must be an english one. They left some of them in north of France, some in good state (pictures show that) in Orleans for example.

Matt

Two references for Dragon Rapide G-ADWZ:

https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/Hi...ial/G-ADWZ.pdf


https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/22309

Stig Jarlevik 7th January 2020 15:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 280642)

Interesting to see that the British CAA either has not bothered to scan the first registration card of the aircraft or perhaps does not have it any more.

The combined details on aviation safety net are mostly from Malcolm Fillmore and John Hamlin's research.

Perhaps most striking are the seller's wild claims with regard to the photo he is selling. No surprise I guess....

Cheers
Stig

newcomer 7th January 2020 21:22

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DH 85, YU-PEA, Leopard Moth crash landed near Vistad factory at Valjevo in Serbia in 7th April 1941. Captured by Germans.

Seaplanes 8th January 2020 23:41

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The GM+OS was a ex. Norwegian Army Air Force DH 82A Tiger Moth built on licence by the Army Aircraft Factory at Kjeller north of Oslo. Its Army Air Force serial number was 185.
Several ex. Norwegian military aircraft taken over by the Luftwaffe were assigned with Stammkennzeichen in the GM+O- series.

Jagdgruppe Sud 9th January 2020 15:04

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Hello another Tiger Moth in german pre-war colours, Mat

newcomer 10th January 2020 15:24

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ex Aeroput DH 89 Dragon Rapide, YU-SAS, captured in april 1941. by German.

Mattcom 12th January 2020 17:14

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Hello to all
Thanks a lot for your answer.
Unfortunatly, none of them are captured in France :-(
@Seaplanes : Thanks a lot for your details about GM+OS... I was near of a big mistake...
Thanks ;-)

Matt


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