Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are some interesting photos of an Albatros D.V of Kest 5? That is one is marked D.V, but would have thought D.Va and I have seen the machine with the Dragon markings described as a D.III (OAW) at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Fot...wAAOSw9dtec14j


and:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Fot...8AAOSwq9Zec1sZ


and:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Fot...MAAOSww7Fec2Dm


and:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Fot...sAAOSw0blec1~M


and:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Fot...IAAOSwD-5ec2HT


and:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Fot...YAAOSw0BVec2o3




Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.Va
 

Hi Clint,

Thanks for the list ; some of them were published in the book Albatros Aircraft of WWI Volume 4 by Jack Herris (Aeronaut Books)

link 1 : Albatros DIII (OAW) of Kest 5
link 2 : Albatros DIII (OAW) of Kest 5
link 3 & 4: Albatros DIII (OAW) 1671/17 of Kest 5 ; pilot was Max Rosenkrantz

Bertrand

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hi Bertrand,


Thank you for the reply and the corrections. I shall retitle this thread accordingly. Unfortunately,I was guided by the fact that one of the images had D.V written on the back and while I own Albatros Aircraft of WWI Vol.4, and have D.1671/17 listed in my database as photos 3 & 4 don't show a serial I didn't realise I'd previously seen those photos.


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is an Albatros D.III, possibly of Jasta 26 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Deutsch...AAAOSwJItecgEI


Does anyone recognise the personal marking from the little that can be seen?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros D.III 2114/16 of Jasta 16b at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Luftwaffe...MAAOSwuHRex9kq


Can anyone read the serial of thew machine behind it?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Not a very crystal clear picture Clint :)

Making a wild guess, I would say it at least looks like it begins with D.21 and the next two digits just might be 29, but I admit balancing on a very tight rope when writing that....:o

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello Stig,


Cerainly worth contemplating and thanks for the response. If the numbers are as you suggest then D.2129/16 must be a strong contender. This becomes even more likely when it is factored in that D.2129/16 served with bMFS 2 according to Propellerbaltt 2 P.75 and what would be more logical than a tired D.III transferring from a frontline Bavarian unit to a Bavarian train unit.At the very least a strong possibility I would suggest. Thanks once again for your eyes.


Reagards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of an Albatros D.III (OAW) at ;


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-5-Flieg...wAAOSwmI9e1rqz


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of an Albatros D.III D.60*/17 at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/RARE-GERMAN-...0AAOSw1s9e5les


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros D.III 1922/16 of Jasta 24 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/1-Weltkrieg-...IAAOSwYMlfMs20


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are another two photos of Albatros D.III:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/1-Weltkrieg-...oAAOSw0qFfNABX



https://www.ebay.de/itm/1-Weltkrieg-...p2047675.l2557



The first photo looks like D.780/17 - another Jasta 24 machine based on the rear of the card.


The second machine I don't recognise, but another Jasta 24 machine?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of an Albatros D.III with an O as a personal marking at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/org-Foto-1-W...UAAOSwP4Nf1g4y


Has anyone seen this machine before and can therefore help to identify the unit, individual or serial number?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros D.III (OAW) D.2565 of the Artillerie-Fliegerschule Ost I at :


https://www.ebay.de/itm/groses-Foto-...MAAOSwTXBgA3Tp


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are two Albatros bearing markings typical of Kest 1b as follows:


Albatros D.III 'X'



https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flieger...oAAOSwYvpgN-ky


Albatros D.V 'O'



https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flieger...gAAOSwSMRgN-Z6





Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Clint

Just to argue a little, I am not 100% certain that our 'O' actually is a D.V.
The gap between the fuselage and upper wing feels a little too large and the fin is awkward. Just like a cross between the D.III and D.V

The dead give away, slab side or oval is not really visible due to the quality of the photo (or scan)

What makes you certain?

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hi Stig,


I'm less than 100% certain it's a D.V, I just felt that the rudder was too curved for a D.III especially when comparing it to 'X' But error is definitely conceivable on my part.A D.III (OAW) perhaps? With regard to the fuselage/wing gap again due to the angle difficult to be certain,but I thought narrower than 'X'. What would be really useful to know is who the pilot 'O' was and the machines he flew. This seller seems to be selling quite a few items recently,fingers crossed 'o' appears with a serial.



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Yes it is a tricky one.

There were D.III using D.V fins, so I have become wary of that.
But I have never been very good at the small details which others seems to have such an ease with.

Just in this case I felt sort of uneasy.....

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a cluster of Albatros D.III of Jasta Boelcke. At least In the foreground is D.795/17 known to have been flown by Ltn Hans Eggers of that unit at :


https://www.ebay.de/itm/124822571987...wAAOSwja9g-sYS



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Clint the 2 on the right look like Frommherz and Kempf.

Nick

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hi Nick,


I absolutely agree the aircraft with the diagonal band is the machine of Frommherz.I also absolutely agree that you're eyesight is better than mine if you can identify the other aircraft as that of Kempf,so I'm happy to take your word for it on that basis.


In your reading,have you at any time come across the serials of those two machines? Also,given your better eyesight can you make anything of the serial on the second machine back on the left?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Sorry Clint can't make that serial out ( but looks like 3 digits); neither of the other 2 seem to have been recorded.
Kempf's D.III had this distinctive wide white bar ; there is another photo of these 2 in the Osprey Albatros aces part 1, with Bassenge's. Another photo of this D.III running-up with Kempf in the cockpit shows the dark fuselage and wheel covers.
The painting is by Brian Knight GAvA.

http://www.vintageaviation.net/kempf5.htm


Nick

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are two photos of an Albatros D.III at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/363593827706...YAAOSw6J9hdojo


https://www.ebay.de/itm/363593826222...MAAOSw~tdhdogj


Unfortunately the negative appears to have been reversed which does not help in identifying the machine shown (though annoyingly I think I've seen it before somewhere). The serial appears to end in 82 or should that be begins in 82? Can anyone please assist with the number shown?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Clint I reversed the photo. it looks like D2285/16; markings may be Jasta 21.


Nick

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hi Nick,


Thanks for the photo work. I'm happy to go with your serial number and Jasta 21 looks very plausible.


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Albatros D.III( OAW) with a pipe smoking crescent moon marking at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/11599073715...AAAOSw20NlYtPY


Does anyone recognise this emblem?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,

Same photo, without the clutter.

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C45384?image=1

Col

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are two photos of Albatros D.III 2008/16 of Jasta 21


https://www.ebay.de/itm/126226017533...wAAOSw5eRlcjau


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros D.III 1917/16,this may have been seen before,in which case my apologies.



https://www.ebay.fr/itm/335183563670...IAAOSwNJlli~aZ


Does anyone know the name of the pilot who flew this machine. Failing which,what does the emblem shown depict? Hopefully I could then use that for an image search.


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Currently on ebay is a photo of an Albatros D.III. I t looks like a Jasta 11 machine and may be 629/17 of Karl Allmenröder. Photo is captioned as orginal,but no idea whether this is the case. So has anyone seen this photo before and able to confirm the machine's identity?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/355761011752...Bk9SR8qz7Kf7Yw

Regards,

Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hi Clint. Could it be Lothar v. R. (yellow nose) ? Allmenroder's had a more visible fuselage cross under the thin dope. Not sure though.

On the subject of Albatrosses ("Albatrosen" ?) I thought you and Stig would like these on P.5 .
Nick



https://porschecarshistory.com/wp-co...g_variants.pdf

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Thanks for the link Nick

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Nick,


I think the jury is still out on the identity of the D.III in my link. Have you either a photo or a profile of LvR's machine that you had in minf?


Thanks also for the nice photo of the Kest 1b machines. As you sometimes visit the Aerodrome I assume you're probably aware that Jos is posting currently on Kest 1b in his ongoing series of postings on the Kests. Hopefully more photos will be forthcoming. For those who may be unaware ofthe posts they can be found here


https://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/s...049#post775049


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Sorry Clint I was just going by the shade of nose colour ie. not white, blue, green or black. If only they had colour film. Wonder why it's got "Eindecker" on the back? Incidentally your previous D.III with moon-and-pipe seems to have a very similar emblem to that on Hans von Buttlar's Pfalz (Jasta 18) (there's an overpainted swastika below it). His other Pfalz had a hunting horn, part of his family crest.
I appreciate the reminder on The Aerodrome, afraid not visited often as my main headache is the USAAF. I must admit most of my models in past times were WW1, remember the old Merit/ SMER/ Aurora 1:48th ?



Thanks
Nick

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is an interestingly marked Albatros D.III (OAW) captioned as being flown by an Uffz Schrammer. I don't suppose any one is aware of the unit involved?


https://www.ebay.de/itm/305748333756...EAAOSw6hNmy1Lj



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Clint. The only "Schrammer" in the Grub Street "Jasta Pilots" book is Uffz. Schrammer, Jasta 43 on 26 Feb. 1918; it's got their white tail (usually with a number on the fin).
Regards
Nick

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a nice photo of Albatros D.III 2215/16.New to me. Can anyone identify the unit and pilot


https://www.ebay.de/itm/306032456343...Bk9SR4j1x6SKZQ



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Nope, but looks like a Navy guy to the right, so I can make a guess.... :)

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

....for sure, does it begin with MFJ?:)


I note the bidding has reached quite a high price and agreeing with you that it may well be a naval aircraft given the Swabby and the location I've tried to identify the markings with a known naval ace,but so far nothing.



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Albatros D.III
 

Ha, ha Clint:)

Good luck with that! :D

Cheers
Stig