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musec04 2nd April 2020 23:28

Photo Letord
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Letord 4 of an unknown (to me) unit at :




https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Aviation-pho...8AAOSwhWtegNSH


Regards,


Clint

musec04 24th April 2020 20:04

Re: Photo Letord
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Letord 1 No.125 at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/6503-AVIAZIO...cAAOSwae9eouH5


According to http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escad...ete_Letord.htm


this machine served with SAL 122.


Regards,


Clint

musec04 28th April 2020 16:37

Re: Photo Letord
 
Hello,


There is another Letord design on ebay today, the Type 2 at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...EAAOSwd0JeqCpW


Regards,


Clint

musec04 27th May 2020 21:38

Re: Photo Letord
 
Hello,


Currently on delcampe are photos of Letord Type 1 No.153 at:


Clint

musec04 20th August 2020 16:32

Re: Photo Letord
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Letord 5 of Spa 140? at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Photo-avi...UAAOSw6bRfPmTE


Regards,


Clint

musec04 17th October 2020 00:20

Re: Photo Letord
 
Hello,


Currently on delcampe are two photos of a Letord Type 2 (?) of F 32 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...107124885.html


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...106226583.html



while another Letord is on ebay at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW1-ORIGI...EAAOSw4Plfdz9e


Regards,


Clint

musec04 1st November 2020 12:44

Re: Photo Letord
 
Hello,


Currently on delcampe is a photo of Letord Type 1 No.15 of C 122 or SAL 122 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...119355679.html



Regards,


Clint

musec04 23rd June 2024 14:09

Re: Photo Letord
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Letord Type 1 No.28, possibly of escadrille F72



https://www.ebay.fr/itm/335453876197...Bk9SR-jEwMqIZA


Regards,


Clint

musec04 2nd October 2024 20:42

Re: Photo Letord
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a crashed Letord Type 1 No.12 (?) of SOP 13


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/315806862343...kAAOSw5adm~SZL



The seller has further photos of WWI aircraft at


https://www.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_dkr=...n+1914&_sop=10



Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 3rd October 2024 17:45

Re: Photo Letord
 
Clint

Are you 100% certain this is a Letord 1?

Not sure I can see the difference between the 150 and 200hp HS engines.
Sop 13 used both the L.1 and L.2 and they seem to have been built intermixed.

Bottom line is, can we rule out it actually says L 2 instead of 12 on the fin?

Cheers
Stig

musec04 3rd October 2024 18:21

Re: Photo Letord
 
Hi Stig,


I certainly would not wish to state,though of course I have, that it is not a Type 2,but it appears that Letord STAe follow a logical pattern. So most un-Nieuport like. Obviously I stand ready to be corrected,if anyone can provide evidence to the contrary,but the highest Letord Type 1 serial I have is No.155,the first Type 2 No.170. I have a few definite ids for the serials prior to No.155,all Type 1. Still ready to be convinced otherwise.


Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 3rd October 2024 18:55

Re: Photo Letord
 
Interesting isn't it Clint?

The French Escadrilles de l'aeronautique militaire Francaise lists No 64 to have been in use
by Sop 13 as a Type 2
They could of course be wrong, since it is refuted by other sources.

For the sake of clarity, I have already listed it as a Letord L 1. Guess I just wanted a discussion
about it.... :)

Cheers
Stig

musec04 3rd October 2024 19:02

Re: Photo Letord
 
Hi Stig,


No alas, you're correct


http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escad...etord64_GT.jpg


Back to the drawing board.


Albin denis also suggests that the link I posted is very probably No.64. However, I still think at this stage the STAe is No.12 -or do you disagree?



Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 3rd October 2024 22:14

Re: Photo Letord
 
Wish I could say for certain Clint.

From what I gather it all boils down to which engine was used.
I am simply not good enough to see that.

But if the number really seen is 12 then yes, I would say it is a Type 1

Cheers
Stig

musec04 3rd October 2024 22:32

Re: Photo Letord
 
Cheers Stig,


I should have posted a second link in my last post,it is I think probably a clincher. Both Albin Denis (although he believed it to be No.64) and yourself identify the machine,whichh as we now believe the STAe No.12 as a Type 2. Good enough for me.Definitely looks like the same incident.



http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escad...d_Casse_GT.jpg



Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 3rd October 2024 22:46

Re: Photo Letord
 
No idea Clint why Ms Denis ID the aircraft as a Type 2

On all the photos there are people blocking the engines, making a visual very hard.

If Denis thought it was No 64, of course he believes it to be a Type 2 but if he knew the digits
were 12, would he still ID it as such?

Again I think if what we see are only digits (ie 12) then I would say it was a Type 1

Cheers
Stig

musec04 26th October 2024 00:10

Re: Photo Letord
 
Well, no doubt about the identity of this type,at least. Currently on ebay Letord Type 4 No.799.


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/405289618418...nc%3AAQAJAAAA4



Regards,


Clint


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