Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Caudron R.4 No.4091 at:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Aviation-pho...UAAOSwbuJelF8i


and one or more Caudron G.6 at :


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Aviation-pho...MAAOSwBBVelF5i


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Aviation-pho...MAAOSwsidelFwf



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay there is a photo of a Caudron G.3 at:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/DN191-Photog...wAAOSwnQ5eo87H


Is this a G.3 R1 Rouler or does the lower wing just appear abbreviated because of the perspective?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello
If you look at the engine, it’s seems to be a 10 cylinder Anzani radial (100 HP), a lot too powerful for a Rouleur, usually fitted with a 45 HP Anzani. The happy guy in front has a shining observer badge, so the photo could be taken at a school.
Regards
Jean Schreiber

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello Jean,


Thanks for the additional information.


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a crashed and recovered Italian Caudron G.III with wings apparently finished in the Italian Tricolore at:


ttps://www.ebay.it/itm/regia-aeronautica-ww1-ww2-anni-20-coloniale-rsi-fronte-pilota-di-volo-arditi-34/313065090764?hash=item48e4222ecc:g:rZgAAOSws4tepdt E


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay there is a photo of Caudron G.4 C.1309 of C 64 in a battered condition at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-C-Flugz...UAAOSwqn1eMsbV


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Caudron G.III E2 of the Ecole d'aviation de Châteauroux possibly numbered 6812 at:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/30356801503...IAAOSwlF1eveRn

Regards,

Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Caudron G.4, possibly C.1380 in an arboreal setting at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/2-Fotos-abge...cAAOSwAata7BVE


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay or delcampe as indicated by the link are the following Caudron aircraft:


Caudron G.3 No.418


https://www.delcampe.net/de/sammlero...251279673.html


Italian Caudron G.3


https://www.ebay.it/itm/765-18-WW-1-...8AAOSwWtZeSbqB


Italian Caudron G.4


https://www.ebay.it/itm/765-16-WW-1-...EAAOSwGaVeSbn5



Caudron R.4 No.1603


https://www.delcampe.net/de/sammlero...852234901.html

Caudron R.11 A3 No.3608


https://www.delcampe.net/de/sammlero...894913510.html



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of the future RFC Caudron G.3 Serial 4293 wearing its SFA serial C567 at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/R-A-F-Caudr...UAAOSwULJe5mzy


Interestingly Albindenis has this machine with L'Ecole d'aviation de Châteauroux in February 1918. Were RFC machines then transferred back to France?



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


One for french viewers of this board. Happy Bastille day. A caudron G.III C.4725 at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Snapshot-Wo...cAAOSw8t5fDdrx



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are three photos of Italian operated Caudron G.3 at:


Caudron G.3 C.364


https://www.ebay.it/itm/Foto-Fotogra...MAAOSwLPlfF8zH


Caudron G.3 C.1358


https://www.ebay.it/itm/Foto-Fotogra...kAAOSwk7hfF-D4


Caudron G.3 C.???


https://www.ebay.it/itm/Foto-Fotogra...gAAOSwuNRfF8yR




https://www.ebay.it/itm/Foto-Fotogra...wAAOSwrb5fF9D1


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Caudron G.6 of C 225 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...060303242.html


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Caudron G.4 C.1404 of C6 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/AK-Foto-1916...MAAOSwaQpfRTEz


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Today on ebay there is a further photo of Caudron G.IV C.1404 of escadrille C6 at :


https://www.ebay.de/itm/AK-Foto-1916...kAAOSwo0FfRpmo


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is one, of several photos of Caudron G.III C.420 at:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Photo-Avion-...sAAOSwZfBfgCzD


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on delcampe is a photo of a Caudron R.4 of F 35 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...126066102.html



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on delcampe are number of photos of Caudron G.III aircraft as follows:


1. A caudron G.III captured by the German Army


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...142445091.html


2. A close up of Caudron G.III C.2034



https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...138674514.html


3. Two Caudron G.III



https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...140875122.html



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are two photos of Italian Caudron G.III aircraft as follows:


Caudron G.III C.21615

https://www.ebay.it/itm/WWI-FOTO-ORI...gAAOSwlElfzlq~


A flightline of G.IIIs


https://www.ebay.it/itm/WWI-FOTO-ORI...sAAOSwcMlfzlni


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on delcampe is a photo of Caudron G.III C 106 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...211133343.html


This machine is known to have served with C 43, though whether it was doing so at he time the photo was taken is less certain.


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Caudron G.IV 3034?at:





https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-...sAAOSwkd9gRSSJ




There is also a photo of aFrench Caudron G.IV at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aviation-n-...8AAOSwfcZgQ13g


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a nice photo of Caudron G.III C.620 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/294299051342...wAAOSwlvdg~99J

Regards,

Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on delcampe are two photo of a Caudron G.VI in German hands at:


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...348577681.html


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...348577678.html


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Caudron at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/115160764061...oAAOSwciZhyzfh


Is this the R.4 Type 8? or R.12 The engines appear distinct from those of standard R.4 I've seen.



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Clint

My pennies are on a R.4 (three bay)
The R.4 type 8 was a one off aircraft (not even mentioned by André Hauet), which among other things
seems to have strengthened struts.
As far as I know there is no known photo of the R.12 but according to both Hauet and Soltan/Davilla it was
a re-engined R.11 and as such had only a two-bay wing span.

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hi Stig,


You see the engines as Renault 12Db then? That is the only source of my uncertainty.It may just be the Photo being of higher quality than others I've seen of the R.4,but somehow the enhines look smaller and neater than on other R.4 photos.I certainly think the fuselage looks like that of a R.4.



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Well Clint

As I read Soltan/Davilla (page 164) they say the R.4 could have either the Renault 12Db or the Hispano-Suiza
8A engines.

Then French officialdom confused the matter with SFA calling the latter version R.19, while everyone else still called
them R.4

I simplify it by just calling the lot R.4....

Happy New Year to you too! :)

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Stig,


Currently on delcampe is a Caudron R.4 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/colle...419300572.html


I assume since this one shows the more commonly seen engine,that this is a Renault 12Db powered machine and the one in the previous photo one with the Hispano 8Aa. Or not? I don't have the Hauet work you referred to previously. I take it that this is th WDF.Does it contain any more photos of the Hispano powered machine?



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

At face value Clint, I would say yes to your question.

All photos (regardless of R.4 or R.11) show the Hispano engines to be triangular in shape.
Not many photos of Renault powered R.4. Those I think are of less good quality and difficult to see.
Looks much more rounded though.....

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay a nice photo of Caudron G.IV C.1871 'Loulou' of escadrille C64.


https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/colle...994181482.html


Subsequently in German hands


https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/caud...0084329890323/



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on delcampe are a couple of photos of a Caudron,a R.11, I think being blessed by a priest


https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/colle...046255092.html


https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/colle...046254849.html


The aircraft has a escargot ailé insignia on the nose. Any thoughts on whether this is a SAL.1 unit marking or something else. It appears to differ in detail from any Escadrille 1 marking i've seen


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay some Interesting (?) photos of Caudron G.III


4054 with a Meerkat (earlier thansuspected advertising?) or is it a cat marking?


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/405197485711...4AAOSwumVm0DzC


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/405197490092...MAAOSw4lNm0D7D


Also an early G.III C.56


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/405197492518...oAAOSwcUlm0D8w


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Well Clint

I can't imagine anyone would paint a meerkat on an aeroplane back in 1915 or so.
Some 90-95% of the Esc personal would not have a clue what that was.

I have seen a few in the wild in Botswana and Namibia but how well known would they
have been in Europe? Really cute fellows by the way!!

It surely is an angry/startled cat! A meerkat never reacts that way.

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Caudron R.11 C.3651 (I think)


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/405249614364...Bk9SR7SvqKLFZA


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Very tricky digits Clint

I myself read them as C.5651, but I admit I am very hesitant doing so.
Main reason is I believe the first and third digits are the same and since I only have Caudron R.11
in the 5000 range and none in the 3000 range, well that's it I guess.

Looking at the second digit it then has to be a six since it is different from the first and third digit.

Does that make any sense?

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Hi Stig,


I must admit in terms of known R.11 serials your serial appears a lot more likely. That is there are a fair number of R.11 with C.55** serials on Albin Denis http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escad...te_Caudron.htm For my part the only R.11 serial I have in the C.36** is C.3608 and even then,this is accepting the sellers caption because even with magnification the serial is not legible.


However, I 'm going to send you a word copy of the photo I have just posted which you can magnify (say more than 400%) and which I argue shows the upper part of the first numeral being open to the left and the second numeral appears closed on the left where it loops at the bottom,we both agree that the third numeral is different.


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

This is the problem we've had before, French "3"s and "5"s; this is Nieuport N.1539 (the serials are also on the wing tips) you can see the difference here between them. The Caudron looks like C.3531 to me.

I posted a couple of close-ups showing the numbers some time ago but can't find them.
Regards
Nick


http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fww1.../nieup17-5.jpg

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Nick

Another friend of mine also thinks the SFA number is C3531 so you do have a point.... :)

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Out of curiousity I looked at the photo without being swayed by previous answers.
I also think it reads C3531.

Re: Photos Caudron Aircraft
 

Well, we seem to have a consensus.Thank you all for the replies.


Regards,


Clint