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musec04 10th May 2020 13:22

Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay there is a photo of Albatros C.III 4017/15 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/X4346-Foto-W...kAAOSw4mRet9fy


Regards,


Clint

musec04 14th May 2020 21:31

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros C.III (DFW) C.13383/17 at :


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-1-WK-Fl...kAAOSw5B9eupdP


Regards,


Clint

musec04 29th May 2020 17:09

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on delcampe is a photo of Albatros C.III (Bay) 7214 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/de/sammlero...448295228.html


Apparently a training machine as shown by the wooden wheels and quite possibly the reduction in the usual quantity of wings points in the direction of a ground based trainer.


Regards,


Clint.

musec04 31st May 2020 12:15

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros C.III C.4130/15 in a line up of aircraft at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Foto-1-Fl...YAAOSwWXNe03vV


I don't have a unit for C.4130/15, so can anyone read the serial on the next aircraft back in line?


Regards,


Clint

musec04 26th June 2020 20:37

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros C.III C.4153/15 posibly of Artillerie-Fliegerschule Ost I at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugplatz-Al...0AAOSwnKJe9jQT


Regards,


Clint

musec04 9th July 2020 12:36

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Albatros C.III of Kasta 24 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/A142-WWI-Flu...8AAOSwG8xfBuxg


Regards,


Clint

musec04 13th August 2020 21:41

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a badly damaged Albatros C.III C.4054/15 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-1-WK-Fl...8AAOSw~51fMpRR


A photo of the same aircraft in an intact state can be found in J Herris Albatros Aircraft of WW.I P.193.


Regards,


Clint

musec04 19th August 2020 17:35

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of an Albatros C.III at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/1WK-Doppelde...AAAOSwRaVfPRUG


Given wgat can be seen of the serial the aircraft was one of the machines in the range C.1400/16 to C.1404/16 and the wooden wheels would indicate that the machine shown was operated by a training unit.


Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 19th August 2020 18:01

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hi Clint

Given the highly and deeply curved last digit I would rather put my money on C.1400 than either 1402 or 1403.

Cheers
Stig

musec04 19th August 2020 23:16

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hi Stig,


I quite agree. My first thought was C.1400/16. Hopefully not too coloured by the fact that I've already seen photos of C1401/16 and C.1402/16. It doesn't look like either of those two, but then it wouldn't necessarily as both of those photos show the machines in front line service and the possibility of a change in appearance can't be ruled out. Fingers crossed the seller posts a further image. :)


Regards,


Clint

musec04 24th August 2020 17:51

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of an Albatros C.III of the Bulgarian Air Force at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/1-WK-BULGARI...UAAOSwMcBfQjUr


Regards,


Clint

musec04 20th September 2020 19:29

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of an Albatros C.III of Kasta 22 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugzeug-Jag...sAAOSwlP5fZ3W8


Regards,


Clint

musec04 4th November 2020 21:40

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros C.III C.4010/15, possibly of FFA 14 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/N514-Ostpreu...4AAOSwNDNfom5b


Regards,


Clint

musec04 20th December 2020 18:29

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a nice photo of an Albatros C.III standing on its nose at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/orig-Foto-Ph...gAAOSwsWBf32sw


Its captioned as FFA 42, although the triangle within a triangle marking shows that this is an aircraft of FA (A) 209.


Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 20th December 2020 20:37

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
It's seldom we get funny photos on TOCH, but this one actually is.

I wonder what broke first, the guy's arms or the spur? :D

Cheers
Stig

musec04 20th December 2020 20:44

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Well,if they'd succeded in bringing the tail down he would have to be pretty agile to avoid even worse than a broken arm. Still at least his war might have been over.


Clint

musec04 11th January 2021 19:33

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros C.III C.1381/16 of AFA 229 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-1-WK-Fl...cAAOSwtUdf~IXB




Regards,


Clint

newcomer 11th January 2021 20:51

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
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musec04 1st February 2021 20:36

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of the remains of Albatros C.III (Bay) C.2137/16 of FEA 13 at :


https://www.ebay.de/itm/T36-Flieger-...sAAOSwc1VgF8zj


A further badly damaged Albatros C.III C.1389/16 of FEA 13 can be seen here :


https://www.ebay.de/itm/T43-Polen-Fl...UAAOSwarFgF89p






Regards,


Clint

musec04 7th February 2021 22:29

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Albatros C.III at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...4AAOSwlJRgIEkt


Unfortunately the image has been reversed. I suspect the serial number is 4045/15 but hard to be certain.


Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 7th February 2021 22:56

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by musec04 (Post 301997)
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Albatros C.III at:

Unfortunately the image has been reversed. I suspect the serial number is 4045/15 but hard to be certain.

Regards,
Clint

You mean 4042 right? Last digit is pretty clear after all....

Cheers
Stig

musec04 7th February 2021 23:14

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hi Stig,


Possibly clear to you. I'm still torn,but definitely not certain. I will go with what you say as you seem pretty certain. I've also added a serial number question for you on the photo album thread if you wouldn't mind looking.


Regards,


Clint

musec04 18th February 2021 20:15

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Fokker C.III C.4136/15 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-PK-WKI-...8AAOSw-JBgLnSt


the same machine as abstract sculpture :


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-WKI-Flu...0AAOSwUNZgLnnc



Also on ebay is Albatros C.III C2343/16 of FEA 13 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-WKI-Flu...UAAOSw4tNgLnoL


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-WKI-Mil...AAAOSwjyRgLnUA




Regards,


Clint

musec04 2nd March 2021 20:16

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a nice photo of a Albatros C.III of Kasta S1 with a crescent moon marking at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/T683-Frankre...UAAOSw-MpgPeoG


Regards,


Clint

musec04 24th August 2021 22:03

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of German Navy Albatros C.III LF.201 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/294328194634...UAAOSwGGNhE5iD


Regards,


Clint

musec04 10th November 2021 20:32

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros C.III C.773/16 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/154693383718...IAAOSwJr5hi3WT


Regards,


Clint

musec04 1st January 2024 23:10

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of an Albatros C.III serial C.201/**


https://www.ebay.de/itm/355300336735...gAAOSwFxplgKN2


Possibly signigicant.Can anyone read the yrar numbers following the /


Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 2nd January 2024 08:50

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Clint

If you are certain this is a C.III there is just one that fits, C.201/17
Since I am lousy ID German two-seaters, I pass.... :)

Cheers
Stig

musec04 2nd January 2024 10:21

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hi Stig,


Very much my point. If we look at the Albatros C.III (Bay) batch C.200/17 to C.239/17 all went to Turkey. I've never seen one of this batch in German markings,though they did of course have German Bestellnummern.Also for what it is worth the fuselage of any of this batch I have seen has the typical wooden finish associated with these machines



Crossing over to 1915 we have the Albatros C.I batch C.193/15 to C.244/15. I have not seen photos of all these machines,but any one I have seen,and that is quite a few, has the side radiator.And I 've seen quite a few



Now,these observations may easily be refuted, if photographic evidence emerges undermining the points above in the first two sentences and I'm happy to be convinced otherwise.


What then of a putative C.201/16.To the best of my knowledge,which is very finite,no C.201/16 has been identified so far and looking at the preceding block of Albatros Bestellnummern we have different figues for when the batch of C.III beginning C.100/16 terminated in the published sources.Grosz in the WDF had this batch terminating at C.199/16,whereas Zankl in the Aeronauts Albatros Aircraft of WWI has the batch terminating at C.193/16. In ant event there are no known serials as you are aware to the Otto C.II C.203/16. So is the aircraft in the photo definitively C.201/16.? I will not go so far unless the year part of the Bestellnummer can be clearly read.And yet...



Well anyway. Thanks very much for the question which has allowed clarification (??) of my thoughts at hopefully not too excessive length.


Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 2nd January 2024 10:54

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
As I said Clint, I am more or less useless with German two-seaters.

Perhaps the correct type should be identified first?

Cheers
Stig

musec04 2nd January 2024 11:18

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Well, Stig do you think it could be anything other than a Albatros C.I or C.III? I think that the panel on the nose is distinctively Albatros as are the cabane strut and gap in the upper wing.




I think I've made A reasonable case for why it is not a C.I,but would concede that it has to be a possibility that it is.But based on the radiator,and again the wing mounted radiator we do see,although seen on the C.I is very wide spread on C.III machines, the balance of possibility points to an Albatros C.III.


However, these are just my thoughts and by no means proof. If you have different thoughts on the aircraft type in the photo I'd naturally be interested.


Regards,


Clint

musec04 15th January 2024 11:39

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros C.III 1398/16


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/296166228161...4AAOSw2whlpOYC


Regards,


Clint

musec04 13th March 2024 19:57

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros C.III 1377/16


https://www.ebay.de/itm/235471771472...QAAOSwMUBl8NBx


I have this aircraft serving with both FA (A) 287 and FEA 7


Another interesting photo from the same seller a dated repair patch??


https://www.ebay.de/itm/235471766580...gAAOSw4mBl8M72



Regards,


Clint

musec04 15th April 2024 20:36

Re: Photo Albatros C.III
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Albatros C.III 1396/16


https://www.ebay.de/itm/375374350524...Bk9SR_T2xrDcYw



Regards,


Clint


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