Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of an Italian operated Hanriot HD.1 at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-Fotogra...UAAOSwhRZeyR3U


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently onebay is a photo of Italian Hanriot HD.1 No.811 at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/Foto-Fotogra...AAAOSwHv1e2SVL



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are two photos of Hanriot HD.1 machines at :


Hanriot HD.1


https://www.ebay.it/itm/765-10-WW-1-...AAAOSwYpxeSbhm


Hanriot HD.1 6608


https://www.ebay.it/itm/765-5-WW-1-A...gAAOSwb39eSbcz


Unfortunately the first one shows a serial but it is difficult to read.


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Clint

I think it is the same aircraft in both shots

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Hi Stig,


Far from impossible I would imagine. Do you think you recognise some of the numerals in the photo where the machine is at an angle?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Unfortunately not

Someone has put their "laserbeam" right where it hurts the most.... :)

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Oh well at least I've one Hanriot photo with serial more than previously.Having concluded I Reparti.. I'm currently working my way through the Schiffer book on Italian Fighter Aces which is proving useful in adding to my spread sheet.


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a glass plate negative of Hanriot HD.3 C2 No.1009


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/405216681832...0AAOSw69Fm3Y1A



The same seller has other photos, in which the quality of composition various,but some interesting stuff


https://www.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_dkr=...spa+73&_sop=10



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a number of photos of US Navy Hanriot HD.2 including several showing testing of a floatation bags.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/40523946410...Nj-LBZA&edge=0



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Some very interesting shots there Clint

The date 1 May 1919 indicates it was the first conversion made and since no US Navy BuNo is
visible also indicate they were painted on the aircraft post conversion.
The four blade prop is interesting as well. Not seen that before.
Venturing a guess I would say that one was A5620

The photo dated 27 June 1919 looks like A5626 to me. What do you think?

The aircraft equipped with flotation gear was A5629.

But what is the aircraft which is not a Hanriot (photo date 13 Sep 1923)? Have I seen that before?? :)

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Hi Stig. This is a NAF / Curtiss T.S. ( it's on the photo) but not sure whether TS-2 or -3 as the engine varied.

Nick

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

First I thought you were kidding me Nick

But I looked again and admit that really odd engine and radiator threw me off completely

I have checked my files and cannot find a single photo of either the TS-2/3 or TR racer versions.

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Stig,


It looks like we have a winner,a TR-3.



https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/51163864491


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Perhaps Clint

The engine (or at least the spinner) differs.
I would very much like to see photos of both TS-2 and -3 before making a judgement.

Anyway a very nice find!!

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

The TS-2 as a racer, and the first of the 2 built (A6646) at Pensacola. Don't know about you but I find these engine installations confusing. Not unusual for me now.


Regards
Nick



https://www.history.navy.mil/content...5637892878.jpg



https://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contr...Mark/11335.htm

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Hi Nick,


Yes,the TR-2 as a racer,that is re-engined with a Wright engine,sounds about err... right.


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Great job Nick!!!

A TS-2 it is! The engine is the Aeromarine U-8-D

The TS-1 with its initial Lawrence engine and later Wright J-4 engine is easy to spot.
First time I see the Aeromarine U-8-D engine identified in an airframe.

With regard to the Curtiss Trophy Race 8 Oct 1922 we do now have photos (your find)
of all the TS/TR aircraft which participated.
I believe the 1000 aircraft photo site is wrong when they say the last TS-3 (A-6449 as a TR-2)
took part in that race. I have no evidence it actually did

Race No 11 (TS-2) A-6446 retired at lap 4
Race No 12 (TS-1) A-6304 retired at lap 6
Race No 15 (TR-1) A-6303 won the race
Race No 16 (TR-3) A-6447 retired at lap 4

What do you got?
Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Hi Stig,


Just a quick question about the engine used. Joe Baugher seems to have the Aeromarine engines in a number of the racing aircraft replaced by the Wright engines. I don't suppose you would have written Aeromarine unless you were pretty sure. Whats your thinking on this?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

If you check the first link given by Nick, you will see that the engine is identified in the photo from the race

Its nose configuration is very different from the engine used in the photo you found at the SDASM site

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Hi Stig,


Ah, possibly talking at cross purposes. I was referring to the photo in the original Hanriot (we've come a long way from Hanriot!) post. Am I wrong or is that not in fact a different engine to that shown on Nick's link to the various NAF machines and TS-2 particularly,and perhaps a Wright engine.



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

To me they look very much the same.

It certainly is no Wright-Hispano E-2

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Hi Stig,


Four cylinders per side,long exhaust pipe a la VE-7. No exhaust pipe on Nick's link. Given the air cooling is not coming from the front of the aircraft as in a VE-7 or a Spad come to that,but from the underside of the fuselage,while I can by no means say it is definitely a Wright engine,what leads you to the certainty that it cannot be a Wright engine?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Just a feeling Clint

I admit I have not seen any TS-3 (who got the Wright-Hispano engine) but the photo of the TR-3
which also had the Wright-Hispano engine looks different.

Admittedly they could have changed the engine cowlings/spinners and so on, but I will list it as
a TS-2 until something comes up which makes me change my mind.

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Stig a short article on this Curtiss Marine Trophy race on Oct. 8 1922 .


Regards
Nick


https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval...akes-air-races

Re: Photo Hanriot Aircraft
 

Thanks Nick
Stig