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gilles collaveri 20th July 2020 07:14

A part to identify :
 
Dear all

I am asked to identify an aircraft part .

it is obviously connected to some bomb carrying, but can somebody recognize it ?

I don't have much information about the background (date ..) but that it was found in the French Alp mountains, not very far from Modane.

Thanks a lot and enjoy the sun;

Cheers

GC

ClinA-78 20th July 2020 10:06

Re: A part to identify :
 
Hi Gilles,

At first glance, allied canister for incendiaries?

ClinA-78

gilles collaveri 20th July 2020 16:49

Re: A part to identify :
 
merci Clin,

I just noticed this stamp and the part number "147961"
I could not connect the stamp to an aircraft type;

There is also elsewhere "14752".

Any clue ?

GC

gilles collaveri 20th July 2020 16:50

Re: A part to identify :
 
sorry : please read 14961. (not 147961)

GC

Reiner 20th July 2020 18:27

Re: A part to identify :
 
Hi
It is a Small Bomb Container (SBC).

Greetings, Rene

Adriano Baumgartner 20th July 2020 18:33

Re: A part to identify :
 
Gilles, the remains of a black camouflage leads us for a RAF machine used by night or an USAAF machine flown at night too. This is a certitude.

Checked the Short Stirling and Westland Lysander (SD 148 Sqdn) bomb rack photos and got no match though....so another kind of machine....

Maybe an old Whitley?

Nice finding....surely the experts will help to match this one too...

Adriano

gilles collaveri 20th July 2020 19:00

Re: A part to identify :
 
Merci René.

Adriano, this is a very good idea. I was told today that this part was found near Avrieux, this is West of Turin. I could imagine a British bomber coming back from a night mission to Turin crashing in the Alps; Whitley would make sense.

Any bombing of Turin by Whitleys ??

Ciao my friend & stay safe.

GC

RSwank 20th July 2020 19:54

Re: A part to identify :
 
This link contains an interesting video (scroll down a little to find it) about bombing up a Wellington bomber.

At the 16:28 mark it shows a Small Bomb Container being loaded up.

At about the 18:40 mark they roll the container over so you can see the top of the container. You can compare it to the posted photos.

https://stephentaylorhistorian.com/2...uctional-film/


The same video is also here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHFBTWN6tDQ

jschreiber 20th July 2020 22:13

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Hello Gilles

Modane was bombed heavily two times in 1943, Avrieux ist just next door. But a "return flight" from Torino is of course a good possibility. Here a drawing of the small version of the SBC (a bigger one was used on Lancasters).

Have a nice day !

Jean Schreiber

gilles collaveri 21st July 2020 06:51

Re: A part to identify :
 
You are awesome, guys ;

Any British loss in the area of Modane that could match with this finding ?

GC

Adriano Baumgartner 21st July 2020 14:48

Re: A part to identify :
 
https://75nzsquadron.wordpress.com/1...railway-yards/

Gilles,

Bomber Command War Diaries is a fantastic source of information....sadly mine is not here at hands now...maybe someone can help you with further raids to Modane (dates and losses).

Cheerio

A

Versuch 22nd July 2020 06:03

Re: A part to identify :
 
16/17 Sep1943 Modane. 340 a/c took part, 3,4,6 & 8 Group inc 5 B17s.
Losses 2 Halifaxes 1Stirling.

158 Sqn Halifax II JN904 NP-K Crashed into wooded area known as Le Bois
due Rivoireau at St-Georges d" Esperanche (Isere) 14 km E of VIENNE
France .Crew killed.

196 Sqn Stirling III EF114 ZO-H.Crashed at Heurtevent (Calvados) 3 km
ssw of Livarot France.Crew killed.

419 Sqn Halifax II LW240 VR-S .Homebound shot down by nightfighter.
4POW 4 Evaded.

10/11 Nov 1943 Modane ..No Losses


Bomber Command War Diaries page 431- 443 /RAF Bomber Command Losses 1943 page 323

Cheers Mike


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