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Joda87 20th July 2020 12:21

Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Hallo,
I'd like to know if anyone can help me finding info about actions and casualties occurred to II/K.G.53 during Sept-Oct.1940.

Many thanks in advance!

Chris Goss 20th July 2020 22:25

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
What exactly are you after as if you do not have Battle of Britain Then & Now, it would require someone to trawl through this book or another similar or the Quartermaster General's Returns as there were a number of losses

Joda87 21st July 2020 18:55

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Unfortunately I don’t own this book... hope someone helps ;)

Peter Cook 21st July 2020 20:14

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
I have the BOB Then and Now records in a digital form. This is the list of II/KG53 losses for October 1940.

01/10/1940 9/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-1 (5343) - Attacked by night fighter during operational sortie and crashed near Kloppenburg. Crew baled out unhurt. Aircraft 4K+FZ a write-off.
02/10/1940 9/KG3 - Dornier Do 17Z-2 (3270) - Crashed at Le Culot following operational sortie. Cause unknown. Lt. Schulze and three NCOs killed. Aircraft 5K+CT a write-off.
02/10/1940 6/KG53 - Heinkel He 111H-2 (2635) - Crashed on landing at Vendeville following operational sortie. Cause not stated. Crew unhurt. Aircraft A1+CP 10% damaged.
03/10/1940 5/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-5 (4169) - Crashed near Dordrecht during operational sortie to London. Exact circumstances unknown. Fw. Bunker killed. Uffz. Brandmueller, Gefr. Gerard and Gefr. Bald missing. Aircraft 4D+FK lost.
03/10/1940 7/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-1 (7024) - Both engines failed during operational sortie. Crashed in sea off Schouwen Island. Obit. Bieger, Fw. Heilmeier, Gefr. Bauer and Gefr. Herndeck all killed. Aircraft 4D+AR lost.
04/10/1940 5/KG3 - Dornier Do 17Z-2 (3343) - Attacked by own fighters during domestic flight over the Dutch coast and crash-landed with three NCOs wounded. Aircraft 5K+KN a write-off.
05/10/1940 7/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-4 (4040) - Damaged in landing at Eindhoven following combat sortie. Crew unharmed. Aircraft 4D+ER 20% damaged.
06/10/1940 4/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-5 (8045) - Crashed and exploded at Netherstead, near Colmworth 0.55 a.m. during night sortie over England. Cause unknown. Fw. Koschella, Fw. Wilhenig, Uffz. Thal and Uffz. Bednarek all killed. Aircraft 4D+HM a write-off.
06/10/1940 III/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-1 (2111) - Damaged in landing at Eindhoven following operational sortie. No crew casualties. Aircraft 4D+GR 30% damaged.
06/10/1940 9/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-1 (0176) - Failed to return from operations over England and believed shot down by AA fire. Gefr. Boebel killed. Oberfw. Ortlepp, Uffz. Roeder and Uffz. Holzmeier missing. Aircraft 4D+DT lost.
08/10/1940 II/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A (4164) - Flying accident due to mechanical failure during combat sortie. Crashed and burned out at Doerenberg. Hptmn. von Symonski (Gruppe Kommandeur) and three NCOs killed. Aircraft 4D+EP a write-off.
08/10/1940 4/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-1 (4067) - Forced-landed at Gilze-Rijen following combat sortie. No crew casualties. Aircraft 4D+CM 20% damaged.
08/10/1940 8/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-1 (4081) - Crashed on landing at Eindhoven following operational sortie. Crew unhurt. Aircraft 4D+AS 50% damaged.
08/10/1940 8/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-1 (5032) - Landed damaged at Eindhoven aerodrome following combat sortie. No crew casualties. Aircraft 4D+HS 15% damaged.
09/10/1940 6/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-5 (0311) - Failed to return from operations over the coast of England and presumed crashed in sea. Four NCOs missing. Aircraft 4D+EP lost.
10/10/1940 7/KG3 - Dornier Do 17Z (3293) - Lost bearings during operational sortie and abandoned by crew over Borkum. Crashed and burned out. Crew baled out, one NCO injured. Aircraft 5K+AR a write-off.
15/10/1940 8/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-5 (0271) - Damaged in taxi-ing accident at Eindhoven. Crew unhurt. Aircraft 4D+CS 20% damaged.
16/10/1940 6/KG3 - Dornier Do 17Z (4252) - Forced-landed at Antwerp following mechanical failure during local flight. No crew casualties. Aircraft 30% damaged.
16/10/1940 9/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-1 (0170) - Crashed on landing at Eindhoven following combat sortie. Crew unhurt. Aircraft 4D+KT a write-off.
19/10/1940 9/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-1 (7160) - Undercarriage collapsed on landing at Eindhoven following combat sortie. No crew casualties. Aircraft a write-off.
22/10/1940 8/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-5 (2180) - Crashed attempting forced-landing at Eindhoven in bad visibility. No crew casualties. Aircraft 60% damaged.
23/10/1940 9/KG3 - Dornier Do 17Z-2 (3362) - Abandoned over Esneux when fuel exhausted following operations over the Channel. Crew baled out unhurt. Aircraft a write-off.
24/10/1940 5/KG30 - Junkers Ju 88A-5 (0265) - Engine failure caused crash-landing at Gilze-Rijen aerodrome during operational mission. Obit. Baumbach, Uffz. Menz, Fw. Thies and Fw. Kohler all injured. Aircraft a write-off.
27/10/1940 7/KG3 - Dornier Do 17Z - Returned to base damaged in fighter attack during mission over England. Fw. Passler killed. Aircraft repairable.
27/10/1940 9/KG3 - Dornier Do 17Z - Attacked by fighters during sortie over England but returned safely to base. Fw. Heese wounded. Aircraft repairable.
28/10/1940 8/KG3 - Dornier Do 17Z - Attacked by fighters during sortie over the Channel and returned to base with Gefr. Buettner and Flgr. Ziebursch both wounded. Aircraft repairable.

Peter

Peter Cook 21st July 2020 20:14

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Oops, apologies, some KG3 records in there aw well!

Peter

Nick Beale 21st July 2020 22:18

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joda87 (Post 292433)
Unfortunately I don’t own this book... hope someone helps ;)

It would be easier to help if you could explain the reason for your question — are you after a particular person/event or are you just curious about an entire month's events?

Joda87 21st July 2020 22:55

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 292446)
It would be easier to help if you could explain the reason for your question — are you after a particular person/event or are you just curious about an entire month's events?

Hi Nick,
Just could have the chance to get a document belonged to a Feldwebel who served during this period and was wounded in October
Unfortunately I don’t have picts yet, but I hope to find it soon

Chris Goss 21st July 2020 23:33

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Peter-your list is KG 30 as well as KG 3 & just one loss for KG 53!

Thomas H 22nd July 2020 08:17

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Could you already share the name of this Feldwebel?

Regards, Thomas

Joda87 22nd July 2020 10:10

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas H (Post 292470)
Could you already share the name of this Feldwebel?

Regards, Thomas

Johann Böhnert. ;)

Peter Cook 22nd July 2020 10:15

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Apologies for hasty reply and including KG3, KG30 and single KG53 results - a faulty search before my evening gin and tonic!

Peter

Thomas H 22nd July 2020 11:02

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joda87 (Post 292478)
Johann Böhnert. ;)

Thank you. I know his group. One of the Urkunden is signed by Hans Bader, the Gruppenkommandeur of II./KG53 At that time.

Regards, Thomas

Joda87 23rd July 2020 12:24

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Thank you!
Maybe do you know something specific about the pilot history?

Thomas H 25th July 2020 19:05

Re: Casualties occurred on II/K.G.53 Oct.1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joda87 (Post 292526)
Thank you!
Maybe do you know something specific about the pilot history?

Unfortunately not. But when you have his group you also have his Wehrpass, which provides you with information and give you a good starting point to search for more. To find something specific about the person, although and officer, can be really difficult. Knowing when he was with which unit makes it possible to get an impression of the kind of missions he must have been involved with while being part of KG53 and later KG4.

Good luck with your research!

Regards, Thomas


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