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Chris Goss 15th August 2020 11:54

Do 217 Combat Units of WW2
 
For those interested, 90 photos (which will be cut down to 60), 36,000 words and 30 colour profiles delivered to Osprey yesterday. As soon as I have a publication date, I will inform all. I can now understand why very little has been written on this workhorse! Nobody had time to take photos and much of the technical material especially for the night fighter and Hs 293/Fritz X launchers were ordered to be destroyed at the end of the war

messcaster 15th August 2020 16:37

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Too bad. It's an nice plane. Looking forward to read your book anyway!

SteveR 15th August 2020 17:07

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Count me among those interested as well. Will there be a big (Crecy; as with the Do 17 and Fw 200) book to follow on the Do 217?

Chris Goss 15th August 2020 17:16

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Maybe Steve................

SteveR 15th August 2020 17:18

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Hope springs eternal...

Marcel van Heijkop 16th August 2020 00:09

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Really looking forward to my copy Chris!

Best regards,

Marcel

Chris Goss 16th August 2020 12:11

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Marcel: But as you well know, you will be disappointed from a I./KG 66 perspective!

Alfred.MONZAT 17th August 2020 09:27

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Great news, I was hoping you will do the Do 217 next.

Chris Goss 17th August 2020 14:47

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Alfred: Osprey book will be scraping the surface of an oft forgotten aircraft with an effective operational career of just 3 years. Never used in any great numbers on the Eastern Front where it was used extensively for night recce

Chris Goss 3rd February 2021 09:55

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Just received PDFs this morning so checking it again. As soon as I have a positive date, I will inform via 12 OCH

Crimea River 4th March 2021 21:50

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Hi Chris. Will there be much in the way of NJG units in this work?

Chris Goss 4th March 2021 21:59

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There will but limited. Few photos (just ask Theo Boiten!) and hard to match claims to pilots flying the Do 217 without logbooks (for example, II./NJG 101 flew a mixture of Ju 88s and Do 217s and pilots flipped back and forth). Similar are the Nachtaufklstaffel hence my post. Crecy big book hopes to have more on both roles but it is hard. Bombers of KG 2, II./KG 40 and KG 100 are well covered

Crimea River 5th March 2021 17:45

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Thank-you Chris.

Chris Goss 9th August 2021 18:44

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Osprey book is out and over 400 photos for the Crecy/Classic book and 81,000 words; this is not out until next year

Marcel van Heijkop 9th August 2021 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 309016)
Osprey book is out and over 400 photos for the Crecy/Classic book and 81,000 words; this is not out until next year

Looking forward to read both! :)

Regards,

Marcel

SteveR 9th August 2021 20:51

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Also looking forward to both!

The Osprey is supposed to be out in the U.S. on 14 September.

richdlc 9th August 2021 21:37

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nice!

Chris Goss 11th August 2021 09:19

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Hopefully both will meet approval!

Siko54 11th August 2021 13:59

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16th Sep in the UK apparently from the Osprey website, looking forward to the Crecy book very much though...going to be a beast!

Bombphoon 11th August 2021 23:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 309016)
Osprey book is out and over 400 photos for the Crecy/Classic book and 81,000 words; this is not out until next year

Wow - both much-needed, filling a much overlooked gap.

Finger on the trigger for the Crecy Classic book too, to go on the same shelf as its Do17 forebear's book.

Chris Goss 26th August 2021 23:44

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Photos scanned & captioned-479 in total. Over 81000 words of text…..about to be sent off tomorrow

Bombphoon 13th December 2021 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 309720)
Photos scanned & captioned-479 in total. Over 81000 words of text…..about to be sent off tomorrow

Is there a publication date for this eagerly expected book yet?

Chris Goss 13th December 2021 22:33

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Got the final PDFs this afternoon so on schedule but as soon as I get a firm date I will tell one and all but expecting early spring 2022

Chris Goss 7th January 2022 12:33

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http://www.crecy.co.uk/the-dornier-d...d911a28ac60d86

Siko54 7th January 2022 12:37

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Looks good Chris, 184 pages and 3-400 pictures will be fascinating as usual! Have posted it up at the LRG aswell :)

Bombphoon 24th February 2022 21:47

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Brilliant! Pre-ordered!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/19065375...v_ov_lig_dp_it

Chris Goss 8th March 2022 16:13

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Thanks to a global shortage of paper (and other things), delivery has now slipped to mid/end of April earliest

Chris Goss 11th April 2022 17:29

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Bad news I am afraid:


they (printers) have had an issue with getting the paper for the book, we sent the book weeks ago and they did not tell us until last week. This issue has held the book up, we were expecting it into the warehouse over the next week or so. This delay means that they hope to have it with us for May 24th.

TigerTimon 11th April 2022 19:08

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Will there be a chance the E-book is published earlier?

Regards,
Timon

P.S. Last month I bought your book from 2020 so I am still good :-)

Chris Goss 11th April 2022 19:39

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I would be surprised if the e-book comes out before hard copy but not up to me!

Bombphoon 12th April 2022 01:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 318370)
Bad news I am afraid:


they (printers) have had an issue with getting the paper for the book, we sent the book weeks ago and they did not tell us until last week. This issue has held the book up, we were expecting it into the warehouse over the next week or so. This delay means that they hope to have it with us for May 24th.

I have bought/waiting for my copy. That is disappointing re. the printing service (a bit odd too, as other publishers seem to be printing to publicised dates). But I'm sure it will be worth the wait...

Ju 188 next?!

Chris Goss 12th April 2022 08:04

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Many other publishers are having problems. Not Ju 188 but Ju 88 day fighter operations and the early development of the Ju 88 as a fighter

FalkeEins 12th April 2022 08:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 318393)
Many other publishers are having problems.


In France Aerojournal put out an editorial explaining that the magazine is now printed on re-cycled (matte) paper since it was proving virtually impossible to get hold of the usual glossy quality material...

Chris Goss 12th April 2022 08:34

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….and the drop in quality is obvious

Chris Goss 12th May 2022 12:26

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Latest update today:


Unfortunately the printers who have the job ran out of paper due to extreme paper shortages at the moment, they did not tell us until we were expecting the books into the warehouse as they probably knew if we were aware of the situation we would have gone elsewhere. The books are confirmed to be in our warehouse on May 24th, it can take a day or so for the books to start going out depending on what time the delivery comes in.

Sorry again for this but the situation was out of our hands unfortunately, this is a bit of a crisis for all printers right now which is why publishers are facing price increases for paper of 60%. I hope things start to turn around but it doesn’t look likely just yet.

FalkeEins 12th May 2022 13:26

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Thanks Chris. Not sure what that means exactly A 'limited' print run will be available from May 24th...or no books at all ?

Tomas Prusa 12th May 2022 20:56

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maybe its right time to start selling ebooks - no problems with printig companies, paper sortage, higher prices etc.

edwest2 12th May 2022 21:15

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My company publishes fiction books. In the U.S., there is a paper shortage but that does not mean no paper. The various printers we work with have paper allotments sent to them. Sometimes,

a paper mill closes, further complicating the situation. We were able to find a new printer that gave us the smaller part of the total print run we requested in less time than average, at least for now.

That was a few weeks ago. The remainder of the books will arrive tomorrow, I just learned. Two weeks ahead of the initial estimate.

As I understand it, the situation in Europe is similar. On the other hand, we were able to get reprints of some titles when we needed them because the orders were put in months ago.


Best,
Ed

edwest2 12th May 2022 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomas Prusa (Post 319171)
maybe its right time to start selling ebooks - no problems with printig companies, paper sortage, higher prices etc.

In the U.S., paper book sales have increased. I have no desire to buy an ebook. Most people I talk to prefer a paper book.

The issue for publishers is this: $20.00 for a printed book or $2.98 for an ebook. What do those involved, from writers to artists to graphic designers, get paid?

Best,
Ed

Chris Goss 13th May 2022 15:30

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Paper book every time for me


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