Fw.Ernst JÄCKEL and a reward of 500 Reichsmarks
 

Hi,
Fw.Ernst JÄCKEL (2./JG 26), shot down 18.7.1941 southeast of Lille bomber Short Stirling.
Josef Priller wrote in his book that this was the first shot down of a four-engine bomber. For this shot down, Fw.Jäckel allegedly received a reward of 500 Reichsmarks! Was this really the first shot down of a four-engine aircraft by a Luftwaffe pilot?
Please does anyone have more information on this event?
Thank you very much for your answers,
best regards Tony

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Bit of confusion here. Caldwell and Foreman say the Stirling was from 15 Sqn attacking Lille, the claim being SE of Lille but Chorley & the F540 say this aircraft was one of 5 attacking Wesel (no mention of an escort) but all turned back and this one came down in the North Sea. No take off times are listed and it was the first four-engined aircraft to have been claimed shot down by JG 2 and JG 26; night fighters had already claimed Stirlings. If indeed this aircraft, it was dreadfully off track and those of its crew who were washed ashore are buried in Holland. Certainly didn't crash several miles off Deal and no mention of it having an escort of four Spitfires!

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Chris, thank you very much for the quick reply.
Was money a frequent reward at the Luftwaffe?

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I think Foreman and Caldwell are looking at the following day, the 19th, when three Stirlings went on Circus C-51 to Lille and N6018 was lost near Lille. There were 17 squadrons of fighters with them

On the previous day, the 18th, five Stirlings were sent out independently to five separate targets in NW Germany and the occupied territories but turned back when the cloud evaporated over the North Sea, N6030 was lost apparently over the sea

Martin

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Lord knows then where they got their information from. The 19 July 41 Stirling was the only loss and attributed to Flak

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I think that such awards did happen on both sides

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I believe the crew of a He 219 were each given 1000 RM by Heinkel after making the first operational use of ejection seats from the 219 .

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Gentlemen, thank you very much for your interesting information.
Does anyone know what the salary of officers and lower ranks was?

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In addition to 500 Reichsmarks, Jäckel also received The Ehrenpokal der Luftwaffe (Honor Goblet of the Luftwaffe). In JG 26, he achieved a total of eight victories before being transferred to JG 51 Mölders. He was translated in early 1943, to 11./JG 51 to Russia. Whether he was sent there for indiscipline or at his own request will probably never be ascertained. In this unit 27.1.1943 achieved the last ninth victory, when he defeated the Soviet Pe-2, but then fell in air combat, 6 km SE of the Izocha base (Pskov region, Russia).

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Hello Gaston,
Thank you very much for your contribution.
You claim that Fw.Ernst Jäckel came to JG 51 in early 1943. May I ask you where you got this information from? I have not yet found out when he left JG 26, it could have been in the fall or winter of 1942.
Fw.Ernst Jäckel was born in 1920. Please, does anyone know the exact date of birth and place?
Thank you very much
Regards Tony

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The date of arrival is to JG 51 is my guess. I also guess leaving JG 26 between autumn and winter 1942. The fact is that since the summer of 1942 it has not been heard of JG 26. So I think he became a flying teacher. And it would be a great coincidence if Jäckel trained pilots IV./JG 51 (January-February 1943) in Jesau, who retrained on Bf 109 G and Fw 190. From there it was a step to 11./JG 51. But I do not have it unfortunately confirmed. Yes, I confirm that he was born in 1920, but I do not know the exact date and place of birth. I'm looking for that too. Have a nice day.

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Hello,

Ernst Jäckel was born on 4 Sept. 1920 at Eger (Sudetengau).

Cheers

Erik

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Hello Erik,
Thank you very much for your reply.
Given how successful this pilot was, there is little information about it.
Thank you again,
Regards Tony

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''The He 219 V1 took off on its first flight on January 30, 1943 and now has the required flight characteristics. For the early successful conversion of the He 219 V1, Dr. Heinkel will receive a bonus of RM 3,000, - for completion by February 8th, 1943 (instead of the planned February 10th, 1943) and is promised RM 1,000 more for each day earlier... However, this was forbidden to him by the trustees of Heinkel Flugzeugwerke, as he said in a letter dated February 19, 1943 to Meister Richmann at the Marienehe plant.'' - Luftfahrt International No.15, p.2316

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Hello,
I apologize for returning to this topic.
I found no evidence anywhere that Ernst Jäckel received the EP for this air victory, even this name is not even in the list of awarded EPs in the book "Der Ehrenpokal für besondere Leistung im Luftkrieg" (K.D.Patzwall).
Please does anyone have better information?
Thank you very much everyone.
Regards Tony