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Marcel Hogenhuis 3rd September 2020 20:11

Which location in the handwriting?
 
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Hello all,

In a flight log of Adibert Braun (I./NJG 3), he noticed on 21th January 1945 'Notlandung bei ……………..' see enclosed page.

As he was transferring a He219 from Rostock to Denmark, I do hope that one of our German or Danish TOCH-members can decipher the name of the location. It seems logical that this place was somewhere in Schleswig-Holstein or - if Braun flew straight to Grove - in Denmark.

Many thanks in advance !

Marcel Hogenhuis

Strange 5th September 2020 18:31

Re: Which location in the handwriting?
 
Hello Marcel.

Tuff one (for mee at least)

I interpret the log entry of the 21th January 1945 as:
TO 09:30 - Landing 11:40 flight duration 130 minutes - distance 865 km.?
distance Rostock - Grove in streight line is app. 300 km.
Distance Rostock - Grove if measured via Schleswig Holstein is app. 400 km.
If the flying distance of 865 km. is correct, something do not add up here.

I tried to manipulate the png file, to see if the log entry could be made more clear. Not much luck.
My finest guess is:
..emtei.

Which do not relate to any place in Denmark to my knowlede at this moment.

Best I can do at this moment- sorry

Rgds Poul

Marcel Hogenhuis 7th September 2020 22:57

Re: Which location in the handwriting?
 
Hello Poul,

Thank you for your input!

I fully agree that the travel distance of 865 km (if correct) is quite strange, because it means that Braun first flew 2 hours and 10 minutes across Germany first before making an emergency landing at an unknown location.

As the TOCH forum first remained quiet, I also put this question on the Luftwaffe Research Group forum, where members read something like '...stedt' and/or Sarstedt. I think they are right, but this does not solve the questions that Braun's flight has raised either :o

To be continued I hope... Best regards,

Marcel

RolandF 8th September 2020 16:44

Re: Which location in the handwriting?
 
Egeskov miswritten as "Egerskov"?

Regards
RolandF

Marcel Hogenhuis 12th September 2020 13:15

Re: Which location in the handwriting?
 
Hello Roland,

I never read/recognized Egeskov as another option, but I agree that it could be read that way. At least it would be a logical location for a transfer flight to Denmark. On the other hand:

1) I guess that leading Danish air war historians like Sören Flendstedt or Jörn Junker to name a few would have known about this crash on land and
2) so far a majority read '...stedt' and if the first letter is a 'S' indeed, Saersted would be another option.

It remains however strange (with both options) that Braun flew so many kilometers and over more than two hours before he made an emergency landing. I have no reasonable explanation for that.

Best regards, Marcel

RodM 12th September 2020 13:27

Re: Which location in the handwriting?
 
Hi Marcel,

I wonder what the weather was like on the day of the transfer flight. It's not inconceivable that poor weather hampered his return to the ground, leading to a forced landing in the end.

Cheers

Rod

richdlc 12th September 2020 20:33

Re: Which location in the handwriting?
 
when compared to 'bei' the second to last and penultimate letters of the third word look like 'e' and 'i'

richdlc 12th September 2020 20:56

Re: Which location in the handwriting?
 
sounds crazy but I'm reading it as either Igersheim (Baden-Württemberg) which is approx 723km from Rostock by road, or Gersheim , Saarland which is approx 843km from Rostock. Perhaps he was hoping to escape to the Allies?

egbert 13th September 2020 10:43

Re: Which location in the handwriting?
 
xxerstedt

MW Giles 14th September 2020 23:46

Re: Which location in the handwriting?
 
Weather on 21st had low pressure over S Norway (992 mb)

Winds in Denmark from SE.

In UK cold, near freezing, overcast

https://digital.nmla.metoffice.gov.u...-cb2fa9267248/

Martin

Andy Mitchell 15th September 2020 01:22

Re: Which location in the handwriting?
 
Martin,

Thanks for the link - most useful.


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