Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a collection of 10 photos of Italian aircraft of WW.I at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/LOTTO-di-10-...4AAOSw7wdfeDj-


Included among other images are a SAML S.I, Caudron G.IV and a Farman Farman F.40.


The same seller also has a seperate photo of a Caudron G.III at :


https://www.ebay.it/itm/Fotografia-o...oAAOSw9YdfeDpf


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a number of photos of Italian aircraft of WW.I at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/224608413108...cAAOSwyLhhP56F


The higher quality photos include a



SAML S.2 of 111 Squadriglia & a Hanriot HE.1, possibly 7458,known to have flown with 76 Squadriglia


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a nice quality close up photo of a Gabardini monoplane at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/265410338041...QAAOSw5NphjCpP


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a series of photos of Italian aircraft of the Great War era and slightly thereafter includung this Ca.4 triplane


https://www.ebay.it/itm/296322969879...IAAOSw1qJmBD5S


and for those interested in serials Savoia Pomilio S.P.2 4391


https://www.ebay.it/itm/296322951943...0AAOSw0URmBDwe


Other photos can be found here


https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_dkr=...%20squadriglia


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

I like that Dude :)
He takes no chances. Every aircraft is a Caproni, such as Caproni SP.2, Caproni SVA and so on.
Wonder how he managed to make every photo so lousy?
Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

And all 14 Squadriglia too:).


But the significant photo is I think the S.P.2 4391 as it contradicts the information in Gregory Alegi's WDF 128.


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Yes I forgot the 14 Sqd.... :)
Looking at p.38 of WDF 128, it seems the production was not as straightforward after all....perhaps more mixed?
Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

HiStig,


I wonder if the batch 4339 to 4439 was not to some point composed completely of S.P.2. Gregory Alegi himself states on P.6 that a handwritten note proclaims 4388 was the last S.P.2,but that the first identified S.P.3 was 4422. Certainly the photo of 4401 on P.7 also looks like a S.P.2.So going on Alergi's own work and the photos we appear to have 4339 to at least 4401 as S.P.2.Other photos and text support this,though I'd like to have more information,before saying this is definitely the case. Certainly the table on P.40 with the whole batch as S.P.3 does not stand up.


Speaking of more information, have you ordered the Gentili book yet and if so,how does it stand up for new content in general and new photos in particular?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Hi Clint

There are some unfortunate printing errors in WDF 128
On page 38 the ordered production of 700 SP.2 and SP.3 becomes 800 when split between the various
manufacturers
The listed 300 SP.3 built by SIA must thus read 200.

The table on page 40 line four should read 4339 - 4438 SP.2 built by SIA.

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Thanks Stig,


Yes, makes sense. The table would then reflect the information on P.38.But the info on P.6 would still appear to contradict both. I believe that his infomation that the first known S.P.3 of this batch was 4422 comes from Gentili & Varriale I Reparti,so hopefully further information in the new series.


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a post war photo of a Farman with interesting markings



https://www.ebay.it/itm/156231659020...EAAOSwLqlmVxsd


The seller has other photos related to Great War aviation at


https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_dkr=...autica&_sop=10



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Indeed Clint

I believe we have another MF.11 (MF.14 in Italy) here.
How do you read the MF number? Initially I read it as 4750 but that can't be right, could it?
I rather lean on the digits 475 and what looks like a 0 is something else.
What do you think?

I also found the crashed Gotha G.IV of interest. Serial number 08.1 something.
I haven't checked any sources yet....have you?

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Stig,


MF.4750 seems reasonable for the Farman. I Reparti dellaviazione italiana nella Grande Guerra has a number of other machines in the MF.47** range as operated by 106 Squadriglia which seems a reasonable bet for the operator of the machine shown given the date and location (as long as the seller's caption is accurate).


The number range does admittedly look unusual for the MF.14,but the range I have, low number MF.4710,high number MF.4787 contains machines operated by other units also. However the text states Farman Colombo for MF4724 & MF.4763,but this must be wrong as we're definitely not looking at a Farman Colombo here.


As for the Gotha. Perhaps 08.16 ?? of Flik 102/G?



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

OK Clint

So MF 4750 after all? I can live with that.... :)

And yes I agree the Gotha G.IV is 08.16 which was shot down by AA-fire

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Hello,


Not actually a mililitary aircraft,so o/t for this board,but the Off Topic board is being used for more important information and an interesting designthe Caproni Pensuti Triplane


https://www.ebay.de/itm/176478037314...Bk9SR_7anfGYZA



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a small number of photos of Italian aircraft. Representative is this Spad S.VII S.164 or S.16*4 ?



https://www.ebay.it/itm/167134061597...gAAOSwuu1nR4PZ



All the photos which include Ansaldo A.1 Balilla,Hanriot HD.1 and Nieuports can be found here


https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_dkr=...c=1&_nkw=aerei



Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Italian WW.I Aircraft
 

Hello



Currently on ebay are a large number of photos of Italian aircraft and/or aviation related themes.


Among the nicer photos are this Macchi M.8 13599


https://www.ebay.it/itm/156624391746...Bk9SR9rQ4v6JZQ




And these Pomilio aircraft of 131 Sqa


https://www.ebay.it/itm/156624196764...AAAOSw1-RnfVtm



Further aircraft captioned as WW.I,though they are not WW. in all cases can be found here


https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_dkr=..._sop=10&_pgn=2



While all of the sellers photos,including interwar and a few WW.II aircraft can be found here


https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_dkr=..._oac=1&_sop=10


There is a photo album here




https://www.ebay.it/itm/156610452308...Bk9SR-z49oKKZQ



Regards,


Clint