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Andy Mitchell 13th October 2020 19:01

Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Hi,

The above Einzelmeldung contains the following:

"1 Ju 88 of I./LG.1 (start 13:40 hrs.).
Mission: Attack target Nr 74 60 or alternative target Nr 10 75.
Due to unfavourable weather conditions (closed cloud cover)
both targets were not attacked.
Instead industrial plant (8 assembly halls and ancillary buildings)
on the Exeter - Honiton railway line (3 km northeast of Whimple)
attacked with 3 SC 250, 1 C 250 Flam and 5 SD 50, results
not observed because of clouds."

I have identified GB 74 60 with the help of TM3 (GB) as the Aircraft Factory at Yeovil (Westland) but have not been able to identify GB 10 75. I cannot see this target code in TM 3(GB) - it's either not listed or I missed it. Can anybody help with that code.

Many thanks

Chris Goss 13th October 2020 19:57

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
1075 is RAF Exeter I believe

Andy Mitchell 13th October 2020 20:52

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Thanks Chris,

Problem solved then.

There is nothing on the TM3 (GB) document for Exeter airfield.

So, I did not miss it this time....

Many thanks

Andy Mitchell 13th October 2020 22:57

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Chris, thanks again for identifying Exeter.

Here are three more that I am trying to identify from another section of the same Einzelmeldung.

1 Do 17 of 3./ (F) 31 (start 15:04 hrs.) for reconnaissance
of targets 10 215, 10 269, 10 880 with photographs.

Cannot see anything in my copy of TM3 (GB) - Target Negative List.

I suspect that one of these is St Mary's airfield on the Isles of Scilly given that part of the sortie photographed the radio station there and identified that it had not been destroyed.

Any help much appreciated.

Chris Going 14th October 2020 11:27

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Hi Andy

OK, 10 215 is Foulsham; 10 269 is St Merryn, and 10 880 is St Eval.

as ever

ChrisG

TigerTimon 14th October 2020 14:03

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
What is the purpose of an Einzelmeldung in general?

Chris Goss 14th October 2020 14:29

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Any analysis of what units did what and what happened at what times. No great detail just a synopsis throughout the days which was reported to Berlin

Nick Beale 14th October 2020 14:52

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 295965)
Any analysis of what units did what and what happened at what times. No great detail just a synopsis throughout the days which was reported to Berlin

… and given a very wide circulation throughout the Luftwaffe, RLM, Army and Navy (each one has a two-page distribution list attached).

Andy Mitchell 14th October 2020 15:39

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
ChrisG,

Many thanks for solving that, will update my documents. Really must build a db of the UK target codes.

With regard to TigerTimo's question

Einzelmeldung - contain (in the case of Luftflote 3):-

(a) details of enemy air raids in the Luftflotte 3 area;
(b)defensive responses (not in great detail); Bomber and Recce Operations planned and/or carried out - down to Gruppe (or staffel for recce), number and type of aircraft, target, alternatives (occasionally), bombs dropped (type and number - not every time);
(c)claims for numbers of enemy aircraft destroyed (by all units under Luftflotte 3);
(d) overview of own losses.
(e) Weather summaries for Luftflotte 3's area of ops(not consistently present).

I presume (can someone correct me or expand on this) that the Einzelmeldung were used to create the daily Lageberichten published the following day.

So, this then leads me to further questions -

1. In T321 R88 Luftflotte 3 Einzelmeldung - there are gaps on certain days, not all files for a particular day are present. My current interest is Aug and Sep 1940 - does anyone have a more complete copy or is this all there is?

2. Are there other, similar, files existing for Luftflotte 2 and 5 for this date period? If so does anyone have them and are they willing to share?

All the best and many thanks to everyone for their help so far.

TigerTimon 14th October 2020 17:52

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Thank you for the replies. I have learned something today. I am not really into primary sources.

Chris Going 15th October 2020 23:05

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Andy-

Your starter for 110: UK Airfields (nearly error free...)

10 1 Abbotsinch
10 2 Aberdeen Dyce
10 3 Abingdon
10 4 Abridge
10 5 Acklington
10 6 Aldergrove
10 7 Andover
10 8 Ansty
10 9 Barnstable
10 10 Bardney Lincs
10 11 Bassingbourn
10 12 Cardington
10 13 Belfast
10 14 Bembridge
10 15 Benson
10 16 Bicester
10 17 Biggin Hill
10 18 Biggleswade (Old Warden)
10 19 Bircham Newton
10 20 Birmingham (Elmdon)
10 21 Blackpool (Stanley Park)
10 22 Boscomde Down
10 23 Christchurch
10 24 Bowmore
10 25 Birmingham Longbridge
10 26 Bristol Whitchurch
10 27 Brize Norton
10 28 Brooklands
10 29 Brough
10 30 Broxbourne
10 31 Calshot Castle
10 32 Cambridge
10 33 Bransgore
10 34 Campletown
10 35 Canterbury
10 36 Chickerell
10 37 Cardiff
10 38 Beaulieu Heath
10 39 Carlisle
10 40 Castle Bromwich
10 41 Catfoss
10 42 Catterick
10 43 Chipping Warden
10 44 Church Fenton
10 45 Unknown
10 46 Colchester
10 47 Colchester
10 48 Cottesmore
10 49 Coventry Baginton
10 50 Coventry Whitley Abbey
10 51 Cowes Sea
10 52 Cowes west
10 53 Cranfield
10 54 Cranwell
10 55 Grangemouth
10 56 Croydon Ost
10 57 Debden
10 58 Desford
10 59 Digby
10 60 Dishforth
10 61 Doncaster
10 62 Donibristle
10 63 Gullane
10 64 Dale
10 65 Driffield
10 66 Dublin-Bald
10 67 Unknown
10 68 Bromfield
10 69 Duxford
10 70 Gullane (Drem)
10 71 Eastchurch
10 72 East Heslerton
10 73 Emberton
10 74 Evanton
10 75 Exeter
10 76 Fair Oaks
10 77 Farnborough
10 78 Felixstowe
10 79 Feltham
10 80 Feltwell
10 81 Filton
10 82 Finningley
10 83 Ford
10 84 Gatwick
10 85 Gloucester-Brockworth
10 86 Gloucester-Cheltenham
10 87 Gosport
10 88 Unknown
10 89 Gravesend
10 90 Little Rissington
10 91 Grimsby
10 92 Hethel
10 93 Halton
10 94 Hamble
10 95 Hamble
10 96 Harwell
10 97 Harwich
10 98 Hatfield
10 99 Hawkinge
10 100 Larkhill
10 101 Heathrow
10 102 Hemswell
10 103 Hendon
10 104 Henlow
10 105 Heston
10 106 Hardwick
10 107 Honington
10 108 Hornchurch
10 109 Hucknall
10 110 Hull-Ost

Best

ChrisG

Andy Mitchell 16th October 2020 13:36

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
ChrisG,

Many thanks for this most helpful.

All the best

PS Did you receive my e-mail?

Chris Going 16th October 2020 15:24

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
A few more...

10 111 Hullavington
10 112 Inverness
10 113 Inverness Seeflughaven
10 114 Ipswich
10 115 Ronaldsway
10 116 Ilston
10 117 Kemble
10 118 Kenley
10 119 Kirkwall
10 120 Lands End
10 121 Slough 9langley)
10 122 Langford Lodge
10 123 Leaconfield
10 124 Leeming
10 125 Lee on Solent
10 126 Leicester-West
10 127 Leicester (Ratcliffe)
10 128 Leuchars
10 129 Seething
10 130 Linton on Ouse
10 131 Littlestone
10 132 Lissett
10 133 Liverpool (Hooton Park)
10 134 Liverpool (Speke)
10 135 Lundy Island
10 136 Lympne
10 137 Maidstone
10 138 Manchester
10 139 Manchester Ringway
10 140 Manchester Woodford

10 141 Churchstanton
10 142 Manston
10 143 Fordoun
10 144 Marham
10 145 Martlesham
10 146 Mildenhall
10 147 Michinhampton
10 148 Montrose
10 149 Mount Batten
10 150 Netheravon
10 151 Nether Thorpe
10 152 Newcastle
10 153 Cramlington
10 155 Newquary-Trebelzue
10 154 Newmarket
10 156 Old Buckenham
10 157 Lesbury
10 158 Newtownards
10 159 North Coates
10 160 Northolt
10 161 North Weald
10 162 Norwich (Mousehold)
10 163 Nottingham (Tollerton)
10164 Oban
10 165 Odiham
10 166 Okehampton
10 167 Old Sarum
10 168 Orfordness
10 169 Manby
10 170 Pembroke Dock
10 171 Penrhos
10 172 Penshurst
10 173 Pershore
10 174 Perth
10 175 Peterborough
10 176 Plymouth Roborough
10 177 Por Ellen
10 178 Portsmouth
10 179 Prestwick
10 180 Radlett
10 181 Portland
10 182 Ramsey Hall Caine
10 183 Ramsgate
10 184 Reading
10 185 Rearsby
10 186 Redhill
10 187 Renfrew
10 188 Rochester
10 189 Rochester
10 190 Tibenham
10 191 Romford
10 192 Lossiemouth
10 193 Ryde
10 194 Salisbury
10 195 Sandown
10 196 Scampton
10 197 Skellingthorpe
10 198 Shawberry
10 199 Sealand
10 200 Shanklin

ChrisG

Chris Going 18th October 2020 10:33

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Rest of the first Alphabetical pass.


10 200 Shanklin (Apse)
10 201 Shanklin (Landguard manor)
10 202 Sherburn in Elmet
10 203 Shoreham
10 204 Skegness (Winthorpe)
10 205 Southampton (Civil)
10 206 Southampton (Woolston Hythe)
10 207 South Cerney
10 208 Southend on Sea (Rochford)
10 209 Spalford
10 210 Southport (Hesketh Park)
10 211 Kinless
10 212 St Athan
10 213 Stapleford
10 214 Shipdham
10 215 Foulsham
10 216 Stoke on Trent (Meir)
10 217 Unknown
10 218 Stradishall
10 219 Stranraer
10 220 Sumburgh
10 221 Sutton Bridge
10 222 Sywell
10 223 Tangmere
10 224 Teignmouth
10 225 Thornaby
10 226 Swansea
10 227 Thorney Island
10 228 Tilshead
10 229 Tain
10 230 Tranent
10 231 Turnhouse
10 232 Upavon
10 233 Upper Heyford
10 234 Upwood
10 235 Usworth
10 236 Waddington
10 237 Walsall
10 238 Watton
10 239 West Freugh
10 240 Weston Supe Mare
10 241 Westonzoyland
10 242 West Raynham
10 243 Whilte Waltham
10 244 Wick
10 245 Wilmington
10 246 Witney
10 247 Wittering
10 248 Wolverhampton
10 249 Wattisham
10 250 Warmwell
10 251 Worthy Down
10 252 Wyton
10 253 Yatesbury
10 254 Blackburn (Samlesbury)
10 255 Yeadon
10 256 Yeovil (Civil)
10 257 York (Civil)

Then of course, we start all over again! But these are a good beginning.

Best

ChrisG

Andy Mitchell 18th October 2020 20:37

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
ChrisG,

They are not just a good beginning - they are an excellent beginning!

Many thanks for your work on this.

Chris Goss 19th October 2020 11:33

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Nice that it accords with my list-thanks. I also have additional airfields added after this first list up to L10 957. Then of course you have the other targets (I have 29) which makes it a massive list (and project!)

Nick Beale 19th October 2020 12:00

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
2 Attachment(s)
I've never made a note of them but there are some interpretations of target codes in 1940 ULTRA. They deduced that the codes were originally assigned by placing the target names in alhpabetical order and assigning numbers accordingly. That changed when new targets were added, seemingly just by assigning each one the next spare code number as they arose.

The attached pages come from the German Docs in Russia site, OKL pages, file Akte 100, frames 296 and 297.

Chris Going 19th October 2020 16:06

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Hi folks. Glad you like ‘em. The Aurfield section resumes with I think Luton, breaks at c 550, and resumes at 800 with mainly Scotland, NI and misc to a number around 927.
Best

ChrisG

Chris Going 19th October 2020 21:07

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Nick; you mention the enormously wide circulation these reports received. Looking at the two page distribution lists (typically c 140 entries), one wonders why they never created an index of distribution lists (like for example K reports from ACIU) so you sign off with Distibution List 9C, or whatever. Talk about Red tape.

Best

Chris

Chris Going 21st October 2020 01:01

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Fifty more...

10 258 Luton
10 259 Ternhill
10 260 Barton in the Clay
10 261 Derby
10 262 Oxford (Kidlington)
10 263 Chigwell
10 264 Benbecula
10 265 Denham
10 266 Firbeck
10 267 Greenock Seeflughafen
10 268 Kintore
10 269 St Merryn
10 270 Sollas
10 271 Tiree
10 272 Worcester Civilflugplatz
10 273 West Hartlepool
10 274 Bramcote
10 275 Unknown
10 276 Bury St Edmunds
10 277 Unknown
10 278 Norwich Catton
10 279 Cosford grange
10 280 Coltishall
10 281 Detling
10 282 Elstree
10 283 Earth House
10 284 Yate
10 285 Houton Bay Seeflughafen
10 286 Add from American list
10 287 Poole Seeflughafen
10 288 Horton Kirby
10 289 Pulborough
10 290 Pembroke Carew
10 291 Zeals
10 292 Pyle
10 293 Swindon
10 294 Watford
10 295 Add from American list
10 296 Cat Firth Seeflughafen
10 297 Burtonwood
10 298 Horsey Toll (Isle of Ely)
10 299 Broughton
10 300 Add from American list
10 301 Armthorpe
10 302 Ludham
10 303 Thirsk
10 304 Rhoose
10 305 Barton Bendish
10 306 Tuddenham
10 307 Methwold
10 308 Hollesley

ChrisG

Chris Going 21st October 2020 20:40

Re: Einzelmeldung Nr 5 vom 23.8.1940 (Luftflotte 3)
 
Getting to be a habit, this. Another hundred...

309 Boxford
310 Oakington
311 Wentworth
312 Lerwick
313 Kidwelly
314 Sullom Voe Seefliegerhorst
315 Woodhall Spa
316 Binbrook
317 Bradwell
318 Crail
319 Grimston Park
320 Jurby
321 Wickenby
322 Kirkbride
323 Kirton in Lindsey
324 Lullingstone
325 Silloth
326 Skeabrae
327 Fiskerton
328 St Margarets Hope
329 Templeton
330 Flookburgh
331 Warton
332 Formby
333 Brackley
334 Yeovilton
335 Leckford
336 Skipsea
337 Lydstep
338 Unknown
339 Chadlington
340 Lichfield
341 Unknown
342 Chichester
343 Bobbington
344 Chatham Scheinflugplatz
345 Llanengan
346 East Harling
347 High Ercall
348 Castle Camps
349 Wellington
350 Oulton
351 Llantwit major
352 Poclkington
353 St Marys Old town
354 Docking
355 Unknown
356 Litlington
357 Stanton Harcourt
358 Weston Ringland
359 Hampstead Norris
360 Honiley
361 Durrington
362 Great Massingham
363 Lyneham
364 Wellesbourne
365 Drayton St Leonard
366 Hunsdon
367 Wincanton
368 York
369 Merston (Chichester)
370 Bubwith
371 Swainswick
372 Limpsfield
373 South marston
374 Kilkeel
375 Moreton in the Marsh
376 Croughton
377 Mullion
378 Matlask
379 Perranporth
380 Andreas
381 Portreath
382 Unknown
383 Newlyn East
384 East Wretham
385 Delabole
386 Great Sampford
387 Parkham (Bideford area)
388 Bungay
389 West Overton
390 Fritham
391 Alton Barnes
392 Theale
393 Wrington
394 Great Heck (Really)
395 Stoke Orchard
396 Saltby
397 Chlds Ercall
398 Greetham
399 Ibsley
400 Hemington
401 West Moors
402 Kings Cliffe
403 Great Bolas
404 Cowley
405 Salcombe
406 Kirmington
407 Puddingslake
408 Dawsmere

Best

ChrisG


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