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Hello,
Currently on ebay are a series of photos from FFA 42 at: 1.https://www.ebay.de/itm/orig-Foto-Ph...EAAOSwZUNf339S 2.https://www.ebay.de/itm/orig-Foto-Ph...wAAOSwusBf33-- 3.https://www.ebay.de/itm/orig-Foto-Ge...kAAOSw5MFf32Ts 1. Aviatik C.I C.*40 ? 2. Aviatik C.I 3 Pfalz E.?? Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
On 22/12/20 the following photos of German aircraft can be seen on ebay: 1.https://www.ebay.de/itm/X5850-Foto-W...wAAOSw6N1f4caN 2.https://www.ebay.de/itm/X5847-Foto-W...gAAOSw271f4cXk 3.https://www.ebay.de/itm/X5845-Foto-W...oAAOSw8Oxf4cVR 4.https://www.ebay.de/itm/X5844-Foto-W...gAAOSwKcZf4cT7 5.https://www.ebay.de/itm/X5841-Foto-W...EAAOSwFdNf4cG6 6.https://www.ebay.de/itm/X5840-Foto-W...AAAOSwSYVf4cE5 7.https://www.ebay.de/itm/X5837-Foto-W...gAAOSwOc5f4b7t 8.https://www.ebay.de/itm/X5834-Foto-W...8AAOSwVYZf4b4X 9.https://www.ebay.de/itm/X5833-Foto-W...IAAOSwnclf4b3k 10.https://www.ebay.de/itm/X5832-Foto-W...MAAOSwildf4b2o 11.https://www.ebay.de/itm/X5829-Foto-W...sAAOSwuN5f4bx- Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
On 23/12/20 the following photos of German aircraft can be seen on ebay: 1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Soldat-...EAAOSw97df4QYO 2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Jasta-F...8AAOSwqstf44qo 3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Jasta-F...wAAOSw6bVf44nU 4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Jasta-F...AAAOSwVrNf44gI 5. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Soldate...sAAOSwl5Bf4kvT 6. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flieger...QAAOSwNTZf4kXY 7. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Jasta-F...kAAOSwtBZf4kSp 8. https://www.ebay.it/itm/Foto-1918-Fl...cAAOSwVFhf3x5S Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay is a line up of aircraft of aircraft in the hanger ofFEA 2 at Köslin https://www.ebay.de/itm/groses-Foto-...Sw0EVgAu61slin The serials that can be seen show : Albatros B.II B.181/15 LVG C.II C.770/15 Aviatik C.I (Han) C.1962/15 Albatros C.I C.554/15 Although tghe photo might not appear immediately interesting B.II B.182/15 is a previously unpublished serial I believe. Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay is a photo of a collection of trainer aircraft, not Nordfrankreich, not 1918 at: https://www.ebay.de/itm/J493-Frankre...AAAOSwaWFgBqqO The largest number of the aircraft appear to be DFW B.I, along with at least two Aviatik and one Albatros B.I The serials are not exactly clear. With a view to identifying the unit can anyone identify any of the serials shown, and I use the word shown loosely? Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay are a series of photos of aircraft captioned as being from Kampfstaffel Trier, though this may not always be the case: Albatros C.VII https://www.ebay.de/itm/T416-Frankre...8AAOSwQ-NgKkBt https://www.ebay.de/itm/T415-Frankre...0AAOSwL0pgKkAW AEG C.IV on right https://www.ebay.de/itm/T419-Frankre...AAAOSw3ppgKkHp LVG ??? https://www.ebay.de/itm/T418-Frankre...kAAOSwSHlgKkFn Should anyone be able to read any of the serials shown, please do post. Regards, Clint |
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Hi Bertrand,
Thanks. I agree. Do you read /15 or /16? Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay is collection of 10 aircraft photos both British and German of varied quality and interest at: https://www.ebay.de/itm/393497842147...4AAOSw1TZhErFg Among the aircraft shown are Royal Aircraft Factory F.E.2b 6934 of 23 Squadron Royal Aircraft Factory B.E.2c 2049 of 13 Squadron. Is that a Halberstadt B.I between the trees? Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay is a photo of a rare bird a Lendner Doppeldecker at: https://www.ebay.de/itm/154693442982...0AAOSwP9Zhi4ML Not much on the machine in Typenhandbuch Luftfahrttechnik and no reason to suppose there was any military interest, though the officer in the photo is intriguing.. In any evennt the designer Leo Lendner was killed when the machine crashed on 07.07.1913 . Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay are photos of aircraft of Kasta 18 at: https://www.ebay.de/itm/175025024437...Bk9SR7SFs6OlXw Aircraft include LVG C.IV 1 & 7 Albatros C.III 6 Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay are a collection of photos of aircraft and personnel of FA (A) 298b at: https://www.ebay.de/sch/m.html?item=...g+298&_sacat=0 Albatros B.II B.305/?? looks rather unusual.The crosses on the upper wing do not appear to match and possibly one of the wings has been replaced with that of another machine at some stage?: https://www.ebay.de/itm/393725575498...oAAOSwk3JhnnDT Regards, Clint |
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Clint It's an unpainted replacement part but the cross (small and inboard) is Austro-Hungarian style; maybe from a contracted-BII ? (B.I in Austria)
The serial on a white block is typical of trainers. Nick |
Re: Photos German Aircraft
Hello,
Currently on ebay are a series of photographs,predominantly of German aircraft at: https://www.ebay.de/sch/m.html?item=...webtob&_sop=10 Also on ebay this evening are thesr two photographs of German aircraft: https://www.ebay.com/itm/30426065417...MAAOSwiWthrzmW https://www.ebay.com/itm/30426065417...IAAOSwwhRhrzwj Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay is a photo of an airfield scene with many aircraft of varying types,though mainly Euler at: https://www.ebay.de/itm/144358699148...cAAOSw4xdh1eyU Can anyone provide the serial numbers on the machines second and third from left on the photo? Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
I now believe the unidentified machines to be Aviatik C.II C.3087/16 and LVG B.I B.473/15.Thanks to Bertrand for the assistance. Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay is a photo of an Aviatik P.14 : https://www.ebay.de/itm/394991108867...QAAOSwRe9lTnFA It has the numbers 151 below the cockpit. I'm unsure if this relates to the army Bestell Nr. number or perhaps more likely a manufacturers number. Having said that a P.14 152/13 is known to have existed,but that number is visible on the rudder which is not visible here.Has anyone an id for the aircraft types B.149/13 & B.150/13 as this may (or may not) help. Regards, Clint |
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Tricky Clint
Since there are no military markings as such visible I would say what we see is a WNr rather than a BNr. Cheers Stig |
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Hi Stig,
Thanks for the reply. As you'll deduce from my last post, I'm inclined to agree with you,not least because there's no /** after the 151. That said, I don't think that the fact that we can see no military markings on this early machine/photo is a clincher. I'm not sure if you own a copy of Aeronaut's Aviatik Aircraft of WWI,but if so take a look at the photo P.4 (1st edition) there is a photo of B.99/ in a hanger with no markings visible on the fuselage or upper wings. Regards, Clint |
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I agree Clint
The problem with these early photos (well almost everything sold on e-bay) are we simply lack both dates and places, so all we can do is to make a "best guess". I usually myself date photos like this as "pre-delivery" since I don't think the German Army flew around for long with aircraft lacking national markings at least not post 1913. The further on we get in time (1914 and on), I believe the manufacturers painted up these Army markings directly before delivery, including the Bestellnummer. The problem with these early photos are we lack not only dates/places but also much other data. For instance I have no idea where WNr 151 was going. To the Army or Aviatik's own school? Since I am in New Zealand right now I cannot check any books or other data from back home....:o Cheers Stig |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay are a number of (rather small) photos of German aircraft as follows: Zeppelin-Staaken RML.I https://www.ebay.de/itm/225892647902...8AAOSwQCplZlH~ LVG C.II 4295/15 https://www.ebay.de/itm/225892646001...gAAOSwBbxlZlGF Euler B.II B.137*/15 & Aviatik C.I (Han) C.600/16 https://www.ebay.de/itm/225892644756...EAAOSwMRZlZlKb Presumably,more to follow when the seller notices that many items are posted showing the rear of the photo? Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on delcampe is a rather nice photo of a AEG J.I of FA (A) 207 https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...921710285.html For a small number of photos related to the same unit see https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...s%5B%5D=122548 Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay is a photo of Euler Doppeldecker Wnr 189 https://www.ebay.de/itm/296100777186...QAAOSwP5tldaP9 While the sellers watermark does detract from the quality of the photo, I thought it worth posting given its rarity. Regards, Clint |
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I am always happy to receive replies to my posts. However, this explicitly does not include posts from yourself.
As we see from your post on 24th december on the thread titled Allied interest http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...49458&page=292 the fact that you post links with no further information leads to serious errors on your part.The aforementioned post received in excess of 12,500 views following my notification that it was posted to the wrong board.But no need to thank me,it is the season of giving after all... Nor is this an isolated example.Please look at the first page of that thread where Snautzer posted information for his links and consider the worth of his posts compared to the worthlessness of yours.Snautzer started an interesting thread you have ruined it with your useless posts. The decline in quality is evident at a glance.I think about what I post whereas clearly you do not.Therefore I think it completely reasonable to reject any input from you on this or any other threads I have started,not just on this board but on any and all. |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay are a series of photos of German aircraft captioned as being at Posen. To my mind an interesting photo is this one of the single example of the Friedrichshafen FF 6 B.203/14 https://www.ebay.de/itm/364650493194...gAAOSwKodljpeF and this one of the Albatros Breguet B.50/12 https://www.ebay.de/itm/364650497147...0AAOSwzmVljpjm An Aviatik ?? https://www.ebay.de/itm/364650713425...kAAOSwnWpljsbE DFW Mars B.84/13 https://www.ebay.de/itm/364650714190...0AAOSwZo1ljsd0 The seller has a number of other photos from the same location as well as photos from the Baltic region. https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_dkr=...w=doppeldecker Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay a series of photos of an LVG C.II unfortunately without distinguishing markings https://www.ebay.de/itm/276263122825...EAAOSwI4tllUbv The same seller has photos of a series of photos of a downed RFC F.E.2b https://www.ebay.de/itm/276263112341...4AAOSw5jRllURX I'll leave identification of the machine to anyone so inclined. Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay is a photo of the King of Bavaria during an inspection with an Aviatik C.I in the foreground and next in line a Albatros C.I https://www.ebay.de/itm/186237792006...0AAOSw9WFllv4V The same seller has a inverted Albatros B.II https://www.ebay.de/itm/186237793390...EAAOSwb2tllv~I Also tonight a Fokker D.VII possibly from a naval unit https://www.ebay.de/itm/355344108629...sAAOSwHz5llXW9 Regards, Clint |
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the help of Kees Kort whose knowledge about such things far outstrip my own feeble trials and mostly errors anyway.... :) The so called Friedrichshafen FF.6 is particularly interesting, since Jack Herris is the only author suggesting it ever existed! No German historian has anything to say about any FF.6 Checking his files Kees has come to the conclusion these photos are of an Albatros pre-war two-seater that Albatros themselves called Militär-Doppeldecker. The Bestellnummer was rather B.203/13 than /14 The identity of what is listed as Albatros-Breguet B.50/12 is possibly the aircraft bought by Albatros in 1912 directly from Breguet. It should be noted that Albatros did not acquire a license from Breguet until 1913 and it is unknown if they actually built any. Photos published just may be the original (Renault engine) later rebuilt with an Argus one. The Aviatik is quite correctly that and was dubbed Aviatik Schuldoppeldecker at the time. Cheers Stig |
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Hi Stig,
You want to see limitations,check out some of my earlier problems with Albatros D types. But thanks for your efforts in getting input from Kees. As the saying has it when the evidence changes,my opinion changes. So my spreadsheets have been amended accordingly.An interesting point about only Herris.This highlights I think the need to show sources. Unfortunately all we can see from the Aeronaut book is that the photo is from the Peter M Bowers collection. I now Completly concur having ironically enough, checked Aeronauts Albatros vol.1 that the machine B.203 is the Militär-Doppeldecker. Regards, Clint |
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When it comes to aircraft pre 1920 Kees is simply a Rock with his vast knowledge.
I am very happy (and honored) to get his help! Cheers Stig |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay are a series of photos of German aircraft,somewhat marred by the watermark,but interesting nontheless I think Foreground and Euler B.I from the batch B.403/14 - B.419/14 in the background Aviatik P.14 B.148/13 possibly from FEA 10. https://www.ebay.de/itm/296157383184...YAAOSw-vVlno6F There is another shot of an Euler at https://www.ebay.de/itm/296157379980...QAAOSwAihlno5g An Aviatik https://www.ebay.de/itm/296157378520...gAAOSwtYJlno4w Having mentioned FEA 10 this LVG is from FEA 3 to judge by the marking. Confusing https://www.ebay.de/itm/296157376281...0AAOSwlm1lno1- There are then some shots of Aviatik B.II B.1327/15 presumably taken during the pilots operational career. As part of Armee Abteilung Gaede https://www.ebay.de/itm/296157384528...gAAOSwy1tlno8G https://www.ebay.de/itm/296157383933...4AAOSwLrFlno7U https://www.ebay.de/itm/296157411949...sAAOSwQe9lnpGi Regards, Clint |
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Clint
The Aviatik B.1327/15 is already out there somewhere on the 'net. When downloading it I wrote down it was stated as being with FEA 10 and the accident was at Böblingen in 1915 Cheers Stig |
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Thanks Stig, I did have that too,but was thrown by the fuselage bands. On the upside,this caused me to undertake a search and I found this site,which I hadn't seen before and it has a better quality image of B.1327/15 and much else as well
https://flughafenbb.com/1915-1918/mi...sturze-wracks/ Regards, Clint |
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Yep Clint
That must be the place I got it from! Cheers Stig |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay is a photo of a Euler Gelber Hund https://www.ebay.de/itm/276309363141...MAAOSwsO9lt968 Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay are photos of a number of German aircraft Albatros B.III 1183/15 https://www.ebay.de/itm/395177143729...MAAOSwbV5lvTmX Albatros C.III 4010/15 https://www.ebay.de/itm/395177142081...cAAOSwaZ9lvTlk Albatros D.II https://www.ebay.de/itm/395177147012...kAAOSwXSplvTpn Albatros D.III 2114/17? https://www.ebay.de/itm/395177144842...IAAOSwp5ZlvTnZ Previously seen LVG C.II 2190/15 https://www.ebay.de/itm/395177141096...cAAOSwB6JlvTk0 Captured Nieuport 17 https://www.ebay.de/itm/395177127913...sAAOSw58RlvTd- The seller has other items which may be of interest but have either been seen previously or are of lesser interest than the above.For example https://www.ebay.de/itm/395177138433...YAAOSwDmxlvTjs Regards, Clint |
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Hello,
Currently on ebay photos of a crashed and uncrashed Taube. https://www.ebay.de/itm/315148140863...gAAOSwowZlxj3G A photo of two AEG C.IV https://www.ebay.de/itm/355445974274...4AAOSwob1lw1oX Regards, Clint |
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