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Steve Coates 31st December 2020 11:38

Messerschmitt Memmingen Erprobungsberichte
 
Between June 1944 and February 1945 Messerschmitt Memmingen issued a series of 15 Erprobungsberichte dealing with ironing out some of the remaining issues with the Bf 109. I have found a couple of these reports on T-2 microfilms and have been helped by the English (as opposed to the Canadian) researcher David Brown with a couple more.

Between us we have found the following Berichte: 2,3, 6, 12 and 15. The quality of course reflects the quality of the microfilms.

As these will be of interest to a number of researchers, I have put these up on WeTransfer for download.

https://we.tl/t-nl8tP5KiVF

This link will only be valid for seven days.

I would be very interested to hear from anyone else who can help fill any gaps in this sequence.

JoMe 31st December 2020 13:06

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Hi Steve

Thank you for sharing.

all the best for 2021
JoMe

Kari Lumppio 31st December 2020 16:56

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Thank You!

Happy New Year to all!
Kari

Marc-André Haldimann 31st December 2020 23:25

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Thanks, Steve and David, for your generosity !

Warm wishes for 2021
Marc

ouidjat 1st January 2021 03:08

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Hi Steve,
Thank you very much for sharing these highly valuable documents.
First and quick glance on MK108 installation on one Bf109G wings and two K-4 wings ...
That's a good start for 2021!
Happy new year to all.
Regards,
Franck.


WNr.163241 IS IT THE ONE ON PIC ? :bow:

the_ivan 2nd January 2021 13:48

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From T-2 microfilms, the following reports can also be found:
- Me 109 Erprobungsbericht Nr. 4 u. 5 v. 28.7. bis 24.8.44
- Me 109 Erprobungsbericht Nr. 7 u. 8 v. 8.9. bis 5.10.44
- Me 109 Erprobungsbericht Nr. 9 v. 6.10.44 bis 19.10.44

Since no. 15 was the last report issued, missing are thus nos. 1, 10, 11 and 14.

Steve Coates 2nd January 2021 14:16

Re: Messerschmitt Memmingen Erprobungsberichte
 
Thanks. Are you able to supply copies or confirm which reels?

the_ivan 2nd January 2021 17:11

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Me 109 EB Nr. 4/5 can be found on reels 2278 and 8280, Nr. 7/8 on reel 2665 and Nr. 9 on reel 2105.

HTH.

Steve Coates 2nd January 2021 18:33

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Thanks.

Nick Beale 2nd January 2021 18:59

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Thanks for these Steve.


I've just tried cleaning up a page in Photoshop to make it more readable. It seemed to work, so if I come across others, I'll do the same.

Steve Coates 2nd January 2021 19:02

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Thanks Nick.

Steve Coates 2nd January 2021 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by the_ivan (Post 300108)
Me 109 EB Nr. 4/5 can be found on reels 2278 and 8280, Nr. 7/8 on reel 2665 and Nr. 9 on reel 2105.

HTH.

Ivan

Do you have these reports in a digitised format? If you don't but you have the reels and you're based in the UK, I can help you get these digitised free of charge.

If you're interested, let me know.


Steve

Nick Beale 2nd January 2021 20:51

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These are the pages that were in negative in the report for 17 November – 21 December.

Steve Coates 2nd January 2021 22:04

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Nick

Thanks again.

Steve

Nick Beale 2nd January 2021 23:23

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Two terms from these reports that I'd appreciate help with:

Flügel mit neuer V-Stellung = wing with new [what?] position/setting. Elsewhere in the reports “V-“ means “Versuchs-“ but I’m not if that’s what’s meant here.

Schraube Holzleitwerk = literally "screw wooden tail unit" = screwed together?

RolandF 3rd January 2021 11:19

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"V-shaped position" of the wing = dihedral angle of wings
"screw" = seems to describe a special screw type necessary to build the wooden tail unit. Important in connection with humidity and the conditions in open air. Remember the glue problems of the Bf109 tail unit

Regards
RolandF

Nick Beale 3rd January 2021 12:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RolandF (Post 300137)
"V-shaped position" of the wing = dihedral angle of wings

Regards
RolandF

Thanks. I couldn't believe it would be that simple!


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