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BABIN 3rd September 2006 10:10

FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
Hello,

On 17th of March 1941, a FW 200 crashed at PLOGOFF (North of Brittany). 5 crewmen instantly died in the crash, the 6th one, seriously injured, didn't survived his wounds.

I search the following info about the loss of this aircraft ant its crew :

- unit
- base of taking off
- mission
- cause of the crash
- forming of the crew (name, first name, date of birth, rank and function in the plane)

Any additional info about this crash would interest me.

Thanks in advance

Pierre BABIN

Chris Goss 3rd September 2006 10:28

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
I have the loss of FW 200 C-3, 0041, SG+KQ of I/KG 40 on 18 March 41 50 km south of Brest. Lt Hans Winkler-F, Oblt Helmut Nitsch-F, Uffz Nikolaus Kleinert-BF, Gefr Wilhelm Harding-BF, Fw Anton Langner-BM killed; Reg Rat Hermann Haller-Met injured. Believe it was on weather recce (hence the Met Man) and cause is not given-no RAF claims. Base would have probably been Merignac

BABIN 3rd September 2006 11:14

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
Thanks Chris : it's the right one.
Pierre

Chris Goss 2nd July 2015 15:26

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
This is a bit old but time to resurrect. Some records say this ac crashed at Audierne as opposed to Plogoff? Can anyone confirm?

Matti Salonen 2nd July 2015 16:55

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
I have:
Pointe du Ras, 50 km südlich Brest, Hausberührung und Aufschlagbrand. Bruch 100 %.

Matti

Tony Kearns 2nd July 2015 19:29

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
Is it possible to know the time of the crash and was it on inward or outward trip?
Thank you gentlemen.
Tony K

Chris Goss 2nd July 2015 20:13

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
2 ac took off at 0400 and 0547 hrs on 17 March. One of them crashed at 1600 hrs in PlQ 5978/14W (need to look this location up). 1 man rescued badly wounded , remainder baled out over the sea (?) and were killed after which ac crashed

Tony Kearns 2nd July 2015 22:21

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
Thanks Chris

schnellmeyer 3rd July 2015 02:39

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
Not directly related to this crash but I have a " Einsatz " report from 15.2.41 which lists Reg Rat. Haller as one of the crew of Fw200 " F8+BL" .The commander was Oblt. Schlosser and the pilot was Fw. Karl Macht .
Chris, have you any idea if Hermann Haller survived the war ?

Chris Goss 3rd July 2015 07:50

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
No idea. I have 2 photos of him plus the burials of the crew

Stig Jarlevik 3rd July 2015 15:03

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
I am interested in the STKZ batch SG+KA to KZ

I have seen various WNr connections in the range 0026 to 0050 but none makes any real sense to me.
Does anyone have any accurate situation for this batch?

My present situation is
SG+KC Wnr 0027 to SG+KZ WNr 0050

However WNr 0026 has been reported as SG+KA (or possibly BS+AZ) and WNr 0050 has been reported as DE+OE.

Don't know how much guesswork there is behind these details....

Cheers
Stig

Black6 3rd July 2015 15:15

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
I believe that Haller did not survive the war.

Reg.Rat. Dr. Hermann Erhard Haller (born 11 Dec 1911 at Schwenningen)
Died (I do not know the cause) 11 June 1941 Luftwaffe Hospital Paris-Clichy.

He is buried at Champigny St.Andre (Block 3. Row 22. Grave 1897)

cheers Peter

BABIN 3rd July 2015 15:27

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
Hello gentlemen,

Here is the additional information I have about the crash of the Fw 200C-3 (FK+AK), crashed on 17th March 1941 :

- precise place of the crash : the village named Plogoff (not Audierne) and, inside this village, the hamlet named "Roscoff"

- time of the crash : 15h20

- fate of Reg.Rat. Hermann Haller : badly wounded in the crash (not bailing out over the sea) ; he died on 11th of June 1941 at 13h15, at the German military hospital of Paris-Clichy, because of his serious wounds ; first buried at the Paris-Clichy cemetery, next re-buried at the German cemetery of Champigny-Saint André (Normandy)

I was in touch with direct French witnesses of the crash, including a young boy (3 years old in 1941), whose the house was completely destroyed by the aircraft. By chance, this boy was "only" wounded and recovered from his wounds.

Best regards from a hot West of France

Pierre

Chris Goss 3rd July 2015 15:40

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
PlQ matches with the Plogoff/Pointe du Raz location and the fact the crew were reported to have baled out over the sea was reported by the Luftwaffe-obviously those who died were in the wreckage. From where did you get F8+AK as the code-eyewitness?

BABIN 3rd July 2015 15:49

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
Hello Tony,

The aircraft crashed on the way back of its mission, to its base of Bordeaux-Mérignac. It stopped at Brest-Lanvéoc to refuel, and crashed just after take off, probably because of a very poor visibility.

Pierre

BABIN 3rd July 2015 15:55

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
Hello Chris,

I'll drop you a PM to night ...

Pierre

Chris Goss 3rd July 2015 16:25

Re: FW 200 crashed 17.03.1941 in France
 
Merci Pierre


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