German Photo Album
 

Hello,

Currently on ebay is a photoalbum captioned as from Schlasta 27 at:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fotoalbum-Ba...AAAOSwjVRf-1Z~

Regards,

Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a further German photo album at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Altes-Fotoal...oAAOSwcidgAGnK


The quality is not particularly outstanding.However, the photo of Gotha G.IV (LVG) G.110/17 is nice.



Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a further German photo album at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/124637-Fotoa...MAAOSw0kpgAa2y


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Thanks Clint for another incredible album.

The 'Essay" is Essey-et-Maizerais 12 kms western side of Pont-à-Mousson

What is the "Strantz" in flugpark von Strantz ?

TIA

Bertrand

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello Bertrand,


Outside my comfort zone a little but I believe it was named after General Hermann von Strantz :


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_von_Strantz


It appears it was a Flugpark for Bavarian units, but given that I had not previously heard of the unit before seeing the photo album, I don't think I can add much. Hopefully someone else knows more than can be found on the net.


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Bertrand/Clint

Isn't the price right within your weekly budget?? :D .....

Cheers
Stig

Re: German Photo Album
 

Stig,


The beauty of ebay. It doesn't have to be... Still I hope Bertrand buys it.


A seperate question since you're viewing the album. In one photo there are a couple of Pfalz A.I A.46/15 and A.48/15 Ib elieve, though not 100 percent certain about the year or indeed whether the second machine is A.48. Anyway, to get finally to the point. I hadn't previously seen any A**/15numbers past A.30/15. However, Ionly have Jack Herris' original Pfalz book rather than its Aeronaut successor. Do you have the latter, if so anything on A.I serials beyond A.22/15 and A.25/15? If not the Pfalz photo in the album, if not necessarily worth the cost of the album on its own, is pleasing as the serials of the two machines was completely new to me. Presumably Bavrian machines with Prussianized/Reich serials applied.


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Any location for the Flugpark von Strantz on this website :

http://www.frontflieger.de/2-afp0strantz.html

but formerly in the hangar of Frescaty (Metz)

Re: German Photo Album
 

Sorry Clint

I also only have the first Pfalz book.

Cheers
Stig

Re: German Photo Album
 

Ok,


Thanks anyway. Hopefully Josef will come up with something or dare I hope some other reader of this?


Currently the serials appear to run:


A.22/15 Fokker A.II FFA 32
A.23/15 ???
A.24/15 ???
A.25/15 Pfalz A.I AFA 207
A26/15 thru A.29/15 Nothing
A.30/15 Pfalz A.I
A.31/15 thru A.45/15 Nothing

A.46/15 Pfalz A.I



So lots of machines awaiting discovery unless the Aeronaut Pfalz book has more.


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Its been a good week for German Photo Albums, here's another:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/124545-Fotoa...wAAOSwp~xgBUgU


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water (cue music) there is now a third photo album within a week this time of RFA 500 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTOALBUM-RI...AAAOSwlBZgBbs5


It is perhaps less spectacular than the previous two, but does have some interesting photos.


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


The fourth German photo album of the week. I 've posted this one before. Still, it is a very nice album and may not have been seen by some previously and in the interest of having all German photo album threads in one place, here it is again:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fotoalbum-1-...EAAOSwXORfitG9


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


In a photoalbum otherwise largely dedicated to Infanterie Regt 52, there is a nice photo of Albatros C.VII C.1283/16 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/124755-Fotoa...gAAOSwk8pgDrZO


There are other aircraft towards the end of the album including an interesting swastika marked Albatros fighter. Does anyone know who flew this D.III? even better does anyone know its serial number?



Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo album from Kasta 28 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Album-Kampfs...4AAOSwQndgGEyY


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo album stated to be from FA (A) 287b at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-Fotoalbu...kAAOSwzQxgH8wu


Many of the photos are actually captured Entente aircraft.


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Thanks Clint

#16 : A nice captured (?) Sopwith 1A2 of Escadrille 107 (june 1917-early 1918) with snake and Croix de Lorraine

Bertrand

Re: German Photo Album
 

Thanks Bertrand,


I've just been on Albin Denis looking at his Esc 107 page. He has photos of Sopwith 1B1 No.185 in German hands. Different photos to this one I think (alarming how your memories goes - it was only about 10 mins ago).


One ot two of the other machines have been photographed before, though I must say the photos in the album are nicer than the previous ones i've seen and the Nieuport B3578 of 29 Squadron was new to me, no doubt if I do an internet search that will turn up too.:o


Also I'm wondering if the album is definitely FA (A) 287, note the Fliegerabteilung 102 marking on the car.



Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

tnx for 29 sqdn. I will check The Sky Their Battlefield's book.

In this album we have "something" with Guynemer

Bertrand

Attachment 20301

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hi Bertrand,


Well most of the sentence is German comrade in discussion with Guynemer, I can't actually tell what the first word is. In any event, although identifying french airmen isn't my thing, safe to say Guynemer is not in the photo. Strange.Particularly as going further down the page, he correctly captions the English prisoners with the machine.


Edit. The first word must be ein. Doh!!!!



Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

I would say it is extremely difficult to state specifically to where each aircraft seen (or individual) belongs.

However, I tend to go with the album this time. Whenever a unit is mentioned it is FFA 287. Even below the photo of the car with the FFA 102 label, it says so.

No doubt the owner/collector of the album also exchanged pictures with others, which of course creates a dilemma. The Rumpler C.IV is such a case in point. Sold before on the 'net. Likewise the captured remains of the RAF FE.2b 6346, seen from the rear, has been published before (Cross & Cockade FE.2 book). I have not seen the one from the front though!

All in all a quite nice album.
Thanks for catching it Clint :)

Cheers
Stig

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hi Stig,


I think you're probably correct and I may have been too hasty. Certainly, as you state much of the written data supports FA(A) 287b.


I completely agree with you on the photos. As I mentioned earlier the only ones that were completely unfamiliar were those of the Nieuport.My major concern is that of the German aircraft with identifiable serials, all have I believe been seen before, though the quality is generally pretty reasonable here. I guess the album was assembled at the time, but perhaps using post card photos that were more widely spread now than then.A case in point in the Albatros C.I C.523/15 which I'm fairly certain I've posted here before, logically under the thread for that aircraft and I believe the machine was identified as belonging to Artillerie Fliegerschule Ost, while the Fokker E.IV belong to Wilhelm Frankl while with KEK Vaux.I've enjoyed looking through the album, but in retrospect more new stuff would have been nice.


Oh, and one I could use your assistance with. What is the full serial of the Sopwith on its nose, partial serial B*824 ?



Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Well Clint

I am pretty certain it must B3824 from No 3 Sq which was shot down 20 Nov 1917
Markings fit, pilot POW which also fit, since the damage is not too great.

Pity there is too much glare when the seller scanned the album

Cheers
Stig

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a collection of 27 photos from a photo album at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/27-Fotos-Fli...sAAOSw3hBgMhiX


If anyone has a view on what the blurry serial on the Taube shows, I'd be very grateful for a response



Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are two photo albums:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/284418556192...oAAOSwEQRhIO3s


https://www.ebay.de/itm/284418560233...EAAOSwRw5hIPAY


In so far as the aircraft content is concerned, the second is definitely the much stronger item.


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay at:


https://www.ebay.de/sch/m.html?item=...ffa+3b&_sop=10


are a large number of photos,many of aircraft from the unit FFA 3b. The photos are being sold individually,but I've opted to post them in this thread as they would appear to all come from the same photo album. If so,a pity that they are not being sold as a single item.But worth viewing nonetheless.


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a German photo album containing 12 photos at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/255269857519...sAAOSweGJhslYF


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a collection of documentstion and some photos of a pilot who at least at some stage of his career served with Kasta 4 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/393868961584...gAAOSwXAVh4BfK


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo album captioned as coming from Flieger Abteilung (Artillerie) 207 at:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/225885859829...8AAOSwArRlX2Jq


While I don't think it compares with the Jasta 12 album a few threads down on this board it may be of interest. The aircraft photos which include a few easily identified entente machines,are at the beginning and end of the slideshow. Many of the German aircraft are either captioned Flieger Abteilung 207 or bear the chevron markings associated with that unit.


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on delcampe is a German photo album


https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/colle...848918237.html


A bit unsure about posting this due to the number of aerial shots of the ground,but hopefully the aircraft photos make up for this.


Also Taube A.210/14. Dubious or what?


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a German photo album. Some photos at least are from FFA 34.


https://www.ebay.de/itm/166647859058...Bk9SR5Sb_eLHYw

Perhaps less interesting at first glance is an album from a ballom unit it does however have some aircraft photos towards the end presumably given the text on the photod fron bMFS 5.


https://www.ebay.de/itm/285764861363...Bk9SR6TMwePHYw

Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Thanks for this Clint; nice links

> second link, slide 9 is the viaduct of the Toul-Thiaucourt railway in Flirey and destroyed by the French army in 08/1914.

Some of these photos taken in the St Mihiel Salient.

What is BFMS 5 ?

Bertrand

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hi Bertrand,


Thanks for the location identities.


BMFS 5 (also sometime written bMFS 5) is Bayerische Militär-Fliegerschule 5 based at Gersthofen Gablingen,near Augsburg. So presumably dating from a different stage in the original album owners military career than the France based material.


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a German photo album. It is almost completely without interest with regard to historical aircraft with the exception of a rather nice photo of Hawa CL.IIIa 16147/17


https://www.ebay.de/itm/266872855456...Bk9SR6yE7-KIZA



Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a German photo album with some nice photos



https://www.ebay.de/itm/405065785772...Bk9SR_76h_2LZA



Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Quite an odd album if I may say so Clint

I wonder if there are more photos than shown? If not it is extremely overprized.
If the text visible is contemporary it is striking the individual who wrote it didn't know
the difference between a Pfalz D.III and an Albatros D.III

Also the photos just don't connect with each other. Boelcke never flow any of the types
shown and there is a mix between fighters (Albatros, Fokker, Pfalz) and recce types
(DFW, Hannover, Rumpler)

Without checking (since I know you are better than me on WW 1 marking) what unit used
the white arrow and come to think of it isn't the C.4 visible on the Rumpler unusual
instead of the much more common C.IV?? :confused:

Cheers
Stig

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hi Stig,


Sold already. So underpriced I guess:)


For anyone interested I discussed this album with Stig as the board was unavilable for a protracted periof. My reponse was as follows


Now to the Album. Yes there are some unusual elements. It seems to me that options are

1. The compiler of the Album served in none of the units and just collected the photos at or near the time of the Great War
2. That the core of the Album was collected be a serving member of a German Unit or Units at or near the time.Or even later
   
   
   I could easily be wrong,but here is my thinking. The compiler of the Album served with FA 7 (the aircraft with the Arrow Markings) and FA (A) 212 as shown on some of the aerial photos. The same person may then have moved on to something like a Jastaschule (the photos of the Pfalz D.III and Fokker D.III). The Fokker Dr.I photo possibly being taken at a visit to Jasta B, or to my mind more likely was available more widely at the time,this also being the case for the Boelcke photo. But an equally valid and less complicated case could be made for the case that most or all were collected by an individual at any time between then and now.In any event or or two photos of aircraft with serials I hadn't seen before and as you say the C.4 is interesting on the Rumpler,though we have seen this use of contemporary numerals before for example on the Fokker D.7.

Stig responded saying that he felt


The unit sounds OK but I am rather leaning towards it has been collected bya non-flying/technical individual.


I agree thast this would very much make sense.


If anyone has any further thoughts on the above I'd be interested. Also I would welcome any views on the serial of the Albatros D.V, that is the first from the right in the shot,adjacent to D.2005/17


Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

First of all, my apologies.

I had not time when visiting TOCH to check the album thoroughly (bad handling by me) meaning
I never scrolled down the e-bay page. The album was much, much larger (and better) than initially
thought.

Having now said that, I still consider it to be a bit odd, some photos are well known while others
are totally new (to me!)
Yesterday TOCH was up and running very awkwardly meaning whenever I tried later it was down.
I didn't even knew my initial posting had actually gone through....:o

Oh well, so it goes.... :)
Cheers
Stig

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Just browsing and came across a photo Album captioned as Flieger Abteilung 46b. As I had not previously seen the photos of Albatros C.I 20/15 (FFA 3b), I hope that means that it has not previously been posted here and is of interest despite not being a recent item on ebay.It can be found here


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204238845570



Regards,


Clint

Re: German Photo Album
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo album with frankly somewhat variable quality of photos. However what is interesting is tha there is a photo of what appears to be a AEG Z.3, to which the serial B.50 is assigned by the compiler of the photo album. As far as I'm aware the Type of machine serial B.50/13 was not previously known.



https://www.ebay.de/itm/276717560011...Bk9SR-imnt3fZA


Regards,


Clint