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musec04 26th January 2021 14:49

Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay are a series of photos of Luftwaffe training aircraft. Given that the items are on the .it version of ebay I hope that some of these may be new to board users and that they are original as claimed.If not, apologies and stop looking Also moderator, feel free to delete the thread.The seller also has a series of photos of frontline aircraft which I've not listed here.The photos are :

North American NA.57 JG 53

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...kAAOSwLyBgBwye

Arado Ar 66 DA+TX

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-AR-66-F...YAAOSwzp5gCwCI

Bücker Bü-131

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...8AAOSweDpf-wCP

Focke Wulf Fw 44 DA+ CJ

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FW-44-S...8AAOSwH9VgBk1A

Focke Wulf Fw 44 RG+AF

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FW-44-F...YAAOSw8SFgBKPt

Focke Wulf Fw 56

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FW-56-S...EAAOSw4Q1gBzga

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FW-56-S...oAAOSw0XpgDdfS

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FW-56-S...UAAOSwpUBgC4So

Focke Wulf Fw 58

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FW-58-F...8AAOSw1P9f-dF-

Gotha Go 145 NJ+GH

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-GOTHA-G...8AAOSwnidgCve0

Heinkel He 50 GM+NX

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-HE-50-F...QAAOSwKLpgCwQc

Caudron C.445 BC +QM II/ZG 1

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...UAAOSwFzpf-c3L

Potez 63.11 BR+IR

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...0AAOSwJ09gBwWS

Messerschmitt Bf 108 WL-IAJB

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...IAAOSwvclgDfyg

Messerschmitt Bf 108 SE+PD. Is this genuine?

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...MAAOSwXwhgCvMu

Siebel Fh 104 NC+NI

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...cAAOSw1VZgCfie

Savoia-Marchetti S.M.82

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...QAAOSwGcBgDMSv

Ok, the last is not a training aircraft.

Edit added

Heinkel He 111B (?)

https://www.ebay.de/itm/1-orginal-fl...oAAOSwIGhgEBbc

Regards,

Clint

musec04 30th January 2021 13:55

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay are photos of some further Luftwaffe trainers as follows:


Avia B.534 SE+CP & SE+CT


ttps://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEUG-BEUTE-AVIA-B-534-DOPPELDECKER-LUFTWAFFE-SE-CP-SE-CT/124551157775?hash=item1cffd3d80f:g:m7AAAOSwSURgFJd F


Breguet Bre.693 KD+ZF & KD+Z*


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...gAAOSwMmNgFIlv



Bücker Bü-131 TC+**


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...0AAOSw3GZgFLPG


Bücker Bü-133


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...MAAOSwgvdgE11Y



Focke Wulf Fw 44 CW+HW


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FW-44-F...8AAOSwhW5gFKHT


Focke Wulf Fw-44 *F+JZ


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...8AAOSwcL1gE17~



Messerschmitt Bf 108 WL-IXVS


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...gAAOSwcuBgE2A0



Messerschmitt Bf 110 A-0 ??


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...sAAOSwuGJgFFdp



Potez 63.11 **+KY


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...AAAOSw0lxgFJ80


Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 31st January 2021 01:06

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Some old, some new Clint

Never seen the Bre 693 before. Any truth in what the flip side says?
Feels unlikely to me.....but.....?

Cheers
Stig

musec04 31st January 2021 01:19

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hi Stig,

It mentions Fw 190/Bf 109 at the top. Is it they that should be employed on the eastern front. Stll makes no sense of course. Why even is anything about either fighter on the rear of a photo of Bre.693 aircraft.

I haven't seen anything about Bre.693 in German service outside a couple of training units and likewise two Luftdienstkommandos.

Regards,

Clint

Stig Jarlevik 31st January 2021 01:23

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Indeed Clint

I cannot see why Luftwaffe should utilize any captured aircraft in a front line capacity unless forced to do so by circumstances.

Somehow I get the feeling the flip side here belongs to a different photo....

Cheers
Stig

musec04 31st January 2021 01:34

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Stig,

As the saying has it, paper is patient.I'm just completing my usual late night trawl through the .com version of ebay before crashing out and have seen an item captioned a spanish royalists Dornier Do 217. Who knew....

Regards,

Clint

musec04 31st January 2021 19:22

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay are several photos of Luftwaffe traing aircraft from the same seller as follows:

Fiat CR.20

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...wAAOSwFsxgFcCJ

Focke Wulf Fw 44 WL-ERZO

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...QAAOSwJVRgFtHw

Focke Wulf Fw 44 PH+AW

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...4AAOSw0kdgFXxt

Focke Wulf Fw 56 WL-IFIU

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...sAAOSwcQ9gFYf1

Gotha Go 145 WL-IPAY

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...sAAOSwB6JgFYkQ

Heinkel He 50 GM+NR

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...AAAOSwraBgFs6h

Klemm Kl 35 WL-EHHW

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...kAAOSw32BgFs2I

Messerschmitt Bf 108


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...4AAOSwLWZgFX2o

Potez 63.11

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...gAAOSwnbxgFtS8

Siebel Fh 104

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-GALLAND...sAAOSwDZNgFtAg

Edit

Two further photos of Arado Ar 66 NG+MS of FFA A/B 118 are at:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...sAAOSwEvZgFt~o

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...MAAOSwKthgFtaN

Regards,

Clint

musec04 1st February 2021 13:22

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay are further photos of Luftwaffe trainers as follows:

Focke Wulf Fw 44 CK+AH

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...kAAOSwMuNgFxyC

Focke Wulf Fw 56 PD+AD

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...UAAOSwBQlgFyKv

Heinkel He 70 TF+NM

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...wAAOSw7hJgFyOV

Morane Saulnier MS.230 KQ+ZD

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...IAAOSwbgNgFxrZ

Praga E.39 VB+RD

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...YAAOSwuI9gFxnX

Regards,

Clint

musec04 1st February 2021 22:23

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay are further Luftwaffe aircraft as follows:

Arado Ar 96 WL-IZYC

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...IAAOSwpKJgGE2I

Focke Wulf Fw 58 D-ODGJ

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...oAAOSw3e9gFyQy

Junkers Ju 160 D-UQEK

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...0AAOSwrAFgGFQZ

Regards,

Clint

musec04 2nd February 2021 11:05

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay the following photos of Luftwaffe trainers can be seen:

Heinkel He 72 WL-EXIX at:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-He...wAAOSw5P1gGQlZ

Dewoitine D.520 TI+RJ

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...YAAOSw~plgGJXd


Edit

Additionally the is now a photo of North American NA.57 ??+XB


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...gAAOSw8ZFgGWUv


Regards,

Clint

musec04 2nd February 2021 21:27

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay are photos of the following Luftwaffe aircraft:

Avia-Fokker F.IX WL-APZP

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...wAAOSwCt9gGZsk

Bucker Bu 131 WL-EQV*

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...oAAOSwLG5gGZVm

Focke Wulf Fw 56 CA+GZ

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...cAAOSw0MRgGZSn

And as far as I know never a Luftwaffe aircraft

Moller Stromer D-EFIB

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...MAAOSwqKZgGZO7

Regards,

Clint

musec04 3rd February 2021 12:00

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay are the following Luftwaffe aircraft:

Aero A.304 VB+HW

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...0AAOSw85hgGfKn

Heinkel He 45 BO+ **

https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-DEUTSCH...4AAOSwR5lgFFVj

Zlin Z.XII VB+**

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-C...wAAOSwvkxgGcV8

Dornier Do 23 MS

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...8AAOSwZsFgGc2G

The last, not a training aircraft.

Regards,

Clint

musec04 4th February 2021 19:57

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay are photos of the following aircraft:

Letov S.328 NB+NM

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-FLUGZEUG-LETOV-328-CZECH-DOPPELDECKER-LUFTWAFFE-NB-NM/124557460049?hash=item1d00340251:g:i1kAAOSw1EFgGp9 s

Siebel Fh 104 SG+GH

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Altes-Foto-F...MAAOSw4I5gHC-V

Also with a civilian serial:

Klemm Kl 105 D-ERHS

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Unsere-Luftw...IAAOSwZsFgGm7~

Edit

Bucker Bu 133 DC+FZ

https://www.ebay.de/itm/u25-Deutsche...EAAOSw1y5gG8Zi

https://www.ebay.de/itm/u24-Deutsche...YAAOSw1y5gG8Yh

Fieseler Fi 156 BT+AH

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fieseler-Sto...8AAOSwgjVgHDeA

Heinkel He 72 CA+HI or CA+HL

https://www.ebay.de/itm/u26-Deutsche...QAAOSwVD9gG8a-

https://www.ebay.de/itm/u27-Deutsche...UAAOSw55NgG8b0

Junkers W 34 GI+NK

https://www.ebay.de/itm/u23-Deutsche...cAAOSwLCdgG8U6

Regards,

Clint

musec04 4th February 2021 20:52

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

04.02.21 Further Luftwaffe support aircraft can be seen on ebay as follows:

Focke Wulf Fw 56 TY+NG

https://www.ebay.de/itm/original-Fot...QAAOSwwiNgHDjN

Focke Wulf Fw 58 **+NX Epr.Kdo.25 ??

https://www.ebay.de/itm/original-Fot...kAAOSw7iFgHDgp

Heinkel He 111 DB+**

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...wAAOSwLnBXXouP

Junkers W 34 CV+NG

https://www.ebay.de/itm/original-Fot...kAAOSwQFpgHDkf

Messerschitt Bf 110C BB+UU & CS+BL of ZS.2 ??

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...gAAOSwJstgGvAC

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...MAAOSwSIRgGvBk

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...MAAOSwMTdgGvHU

Arado Ar 96 **+ YY also of ZS.2?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...YAAOSwIvZgGvM~

Morane Saulnier MS.230 D-IVIW

https://www.ebay.de/itm/original-Fot...AAAOSwd0JgHDiM

Regards,

Clint

musec04 5th February 2021 20:04

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay is a photo album including several German training aircraft at:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Album-2WK-Lu...EAAOSw229gFDYJ

Aircraft include Heinkel He 51 KG+CV & SI+DH

Edit

Also on ebay is a photo of Focke Wulf Fw 187 A-0 CA+WZ at:

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...cAAOSwRkNgHY8r

Praga E.39 Line

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...AAAOSwvClgHZA~

Regards,

Clint

GrafWolf 5th February 2021 21:41

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello!

Picture of Ar 96 **+YY was taken over Ulm / Donau.

Herzliche Grüsse aus Oberschwaben,

Wolfgang

musec04 5th February 2021 21:45

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello Wolgang,

Thanks, so given that Memmingen is fairly close to Ulm, it probably is from ZS.2?

Regards,

Clint

musec04 5th February 2021 22:29

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Albatros L.75 DSB serial D-IZYK based at Rechlin.


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...EAAOSw70FgHall


Also captioned as based at Rechlin:


Junkers Ju 60 D-2400


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...8AAOSwjJVgHapV


Heinkel He 70 D-UKIH


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-He...sAAOSwN3BgHaoZ


Heinkel He 45 D-ITES


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...IAAOSwI~NgHamh


Focke Wulf Fw 56 D-ILAR



https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...MAAOSwspZgHakp



https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...8AAOSw2DFgHajt


Heinkel He 46 D-IKAO


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...wAAOSwuDlgHah1


Junkers W 33 D-ONOH


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...8AAOSwCGlgHaix


Junkers Ju 52 D-ALIF


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...MAAOSw3KtgHatF


Heinkel He.70 D-*KIH,Albatros L.75(?) D-IHUN,He 45 D-IFYQ


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Al...MAAOSwiI9gHau-



Regards,


Clint

musec04 6th February 2021 01:05

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

[edited to remove personal insults]

If you have any time please take a look at my post on the General Board and if you have any suggestions as to how photo threads on this board might be improved [edited] do please post a response there.

Regards,

Clint

edwest2 6th February 2021 01:29

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
This is a team effort not a one-man show. Please remember that.

Ed

Jim P. 6th February 2021 05:00

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Clint,

You do realize that edwest2 and others have been posting e-bay pics with links here for a number of years, yes? Rather than being critical of others posting the same links as yours, maybe you should consider adding your findings to that ongoing thread?

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure most of us appreciate your work. I certainly do. But again there is a long-standing thread for same. And there are certainly missed items not in that thread, and your additions would very much welcomed there I'm sure.

I usually tend to look for e-Bay items on my own using https://picclick.de/ and a number of queries using that app that I've found pretty inclusive over the years. But there are always a few items that escape notice and generally show up here or elsewhere.

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=49508

musec04 6th February 2021 10:17

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello Jim

Thanks for your response.I respect your right to search where you will for your information.However, I believe the central point of my last post is elided, it requires merely common politeness to check whether other posters have already posted a link,let alone a series of links, indeed that it what teamwork looks like.You recommend that I post on an already existing thread. Again if you are happy to do so, then I accept that that is the right choice for you.However, my own view is that the standard of the posts in that thread falls below a level I find acceptable, therefore the duration of the existence of that thread is not a relevant criteria in deciding where I will post and I will not be posting on that thread.

Regards,

Clint

GrafWolf 6th February 2021 15:00

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello!
@Clint, ZS 2 is only one possibility for the Ar 96 **+YY. Also possible:
2./ ZG 101 Laupheim 20.03.44-01.06.44
III./ZG 101 Laupheim 01.06.44-26.07.44
JG 113 Laupheim 15.07.44-15.10.44
II./JG 106 Laupheim/Risstissen 15.10.44-22.04.45
Surely this list is incomplete! There will be many more! I found 8 entries to Ar 96 **+YY at www.stammkennzeichen.de.
The at Ebay shown picture was taken before 17.12.1944,because on that day the old city of Ulm was nearly complete destroyed by a bomb raid.

Herzliche Grüsse aus Oberschwaben,

Wolfgang

musec04 6th February 2021 21:21

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Thanks Wolfgang. I only went with ZS.2 as the same seller had on offer at the same time some photos of Bf 110s (see above),at least one of which was a possible ZS.2 machine, but on reflection, no doubt you are correct and if I had more information they too can be shown to have flown with several possible units.

Meanwhile on 06.02.21 here are some more trainer photos from the same seller:

Praga E.241 NG+ZC

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BEUTE-F...0AAOSwmLpgHuky

Focke Wulf Fw 44 BB+EJ

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FW-44-F...gAAOSwbjNgHuRI

Regards,

Clint

musec04 7th February 2021 10:28

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay are photos of the following German aircraft:

Focke Wulf Fw-56 D-IIAX & DB+SR

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTOX-2-LOT-...0AAOSwIe1gHwnu

Bucker Bu-131 BD+**

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BU-131-...sAAOSw~nBgHwrP

Bucker Bu-133 D-EHKU

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BU-133-...4AAOSwRABgHwjV


Also with a non frontline unit or not ?


Messerschmiit Bf 109E BD+UN


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...oAAOSwPvZgFK8G


Regards,

Clint

musec04 8th February 2021 17:58

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay is a photo of a Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-6 Stkz RX+DU of 1./JG 106 at:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugzeug-Mes...8AAOSwfPpgAHf9

I shouldn't have bothered posting this as its been seen before. My bad.

Regards,

Clint

musec04 9th February 2021 15:22

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay is a photo of a Gotha Go 145 TI+HT at:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fotos-Flugze...gAAOSw-r1gIoVk

Its captioned as being in Sicily. It has a E-Stelle Rechlin related Stkz,and I assume the aircraft is shown there? Alternatively is it known to have served in Italy? The seller has a set of three photos of Italian aircraft:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fotos-Flugze...cAAOSw4uBgIoYl

Perhaps this has led to the confusion?

Regards,

Clint

Stig Jarlevik 9th February 2021 15:34

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Clint

TI+HT has been recorded as both the Fi 167 V1 and a Go 145 (both used by E-stelle (See) Travemünde).

I can't see any reference for the Go 145 though and somehow I get the feeling this one you have found is actually TL+HT (TL+HS was a known Go 145....)

But as usual I am open to corrections.... :)

Cheers
Stig

musec04 9th February 2021 15:43

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hi Stig,

I did consider TL+HT, but Stammkennzeichen.de has it as a Bf 108 B-1 recorded with several units. Like yourself I'd seen the TI+HT used in conjunction with the Fi 167 V1 in among other sources German Secret Flight Test Centres (I should have put Travemünde not Rechlin though - bad record keeping on my part).I the went to:

https://web.archive.org/web/20140508...rg/stam-t.html

which does have both the Fi 167 and Gotha Go 145 under TI+HT and the latter is marked under photographic evidence with a 'green rectangle'. Also,as you'll be aware both TI+HU and TI+HV are jnown to be Go 145. So, like yourself, I'm open to corrections:), but for the moment sticking with TI+HT as being the Stkz shown.

Regards,

Clint

Stig Jarlevik 9th February 2021 16:06

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Aha

Well I cannot access the Stammkennzeichen.de so I don't know why TL+HT has been listed as a Bf 108 with them.

But, if Luftwaffe could record two aircraft (TI+HT) with the same STKZ then they could just as well record two aircraft as TL+HT :)

Once you begin to doubt the single use of every STKZ issued then you can begin to doubt every STKZ where, in a photo, you cannot see the complete letters....

I am sure someone with access to relevant FB will step in and say what it really is we are looking at.

Cheers
Stig

musec04 9th February 2021 16:25

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hi Stig,

Yes, I think Tony Jones questions whether all Stkz were used only once and he's been looking at them a long time. My horoscope today advised against offering strong opinions and I've already done that once in this thread:).

Predictably, nonetheless I would like to ask if a photo has ever been seen showing Fi 167 V-1 as TI+HT rather than the more usual D-OCML. If it has that would be important. On the LEMB Stkz database Peter van Gogh, as you will have seen, noted the conflict in the allocation of this Stkz,but also the existence of a photo for the Go 145, which may be the one I've linked to I suppose.As matters stand while there is no resolution the stronger evidence is for the allocation of TI+HT to a Go 145.

I would recommend you sign up with Stammkennzeichen.de. Wolfgang recommended it to me, I believe in this thread, a few days ago and its been very interesting to browse.But yes very much looking forward to some info from a FB if available.

Regards,

Clint

Stig Jarlevik 9th February 2021 16:42

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Indeed Clint

I tried once to join, but was evidently not considered of any importance.

Not doing that mistake again....

Cheers
Stig

musec04 9th February 2021 16:53

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
H Stig,


Yes, I tried joining about 10 years ago or more, and no result - no reply. However, pretty straightforward this time, just an overnight wait. Natürlich, if you feel offended as a result of last time and not inclined to bother, that would be completely understandable.


Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 9th February 2021 17:39

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Ha, ha Clint :)

No worries, very little offends me these days.
I wasn't offended back then either, but since I tried a couple of times and realized in the end I was wasting time.

Since I was still working time was premium, hence I gave it up.

But if you say it has become much more friendly, perhaps I give it a try?...

Cheers
Stig

musec04 12th February 2021 10:43

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,

Currently on ebay are photos of the following Luftwaffe aircraft:

Bucker Bu-131 PF+**

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-BU-131-...UAAOSwymhgJdPR

Fieseler Fi 156 VK+GS

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FI-156-...oAAOSwc4xgJdHY

Focke Wulf Fw 44 WL-ERZA

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FW-44-F...AAAOSwLCdgJeoS

Focke Wulf Fw 56 WL-IMRO

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-FW-56-F...wAAOSwZWlgJdSh

Junkers W 34 D-OAUU

https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-JU-W-34...oAAOSwzJBgJelb

For those interested, the seller also has photos of both Spanish Civil War and frontline WW.II aircraft. See :

https://www.ebay.it/sch/m.html?item=...ro3737&_sop=10

Regards,

Clint

RT 12th February 2021 15:29

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello, Clint,
I wonder where the seller, is finding all these pictures ?? Probably they are in their majority rather new no ?
Rémi

musec04 12th February 2021 16:45

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello Rémi,

Yes its a little unusual isn't it, and its gets odder. If the setting

https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_from...biplano&_oac=1

is used it is possible to see all the photos of Luftwaffe aircraft currently shown on the .it version of ebay. What is interesting is that the same seller is using two different ids ro3737, which is what i've been posting hitherto and antik2627 as for example in the photo of the Hs 123 RG+NK. Whether random or not, more of the photos associated with the second id are familiar. Weird no?

Also, though I wasn't aware until conducting further research, the same user is on the .fr version of ebay. Using the same principle many Luftwaffe aircraft on ebay.fr can be found by entering

https://www.ebay.fr/sch/1/i.html?_fr...Desc=0&_sop=10

Naturally, this spiked my curiosity and I tried the same operation with ebay.de.

https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from...=15502&_sop=10

Although this shows most Luftwaffe photos on ebay.de curiously enough, the seller appears under neither user name on ebay.de.

However, this was a useful exercise as I can now offer to save time for members of TOCH looking for Luftwaffe related photos by using one or all three of these links:

https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from...=15502&_sop=10

https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_from...biplano&_oac=1

https://www.ebay.fr/sch/1/i.html?_fr...Desc=0&_sop=10

It is therefore no longer necessary to follow posts with numerous individual links,but no added value in terms of information and instead just use one or all of these links each time you wish to search for Luftwaffe photos.

Regards,

Clint

musec04 12th February 2021 21:06

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello

Currently on ebay are photos of Luftwaffe aircraft as follows:

Albatros Al 101 GL+ZX

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Al...8AAOSwxstgJsnf

Focke Wulf Fw 44 DK+HT

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...oAAOSwXChgJsob

Focke Wulf Fw 44 TB+OE

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Un...kAAOSwpAhgJs2g

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...wAAOSw7sRgJsyy

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...UAAOSwnBdgJszs

Heinkel He 46 BB+HR

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Lu...IAAOSwrAFgJslm

There is also a photo of He 115 DG+CR . Does anyone know which unit flew this machine?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-He...oAAOSwyhVgJsjw

Regards,

Clint

musec04 13th February 2021 12:44

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay are photos of the following Luftwaffe aircraft:


Heinkel He 70 PF+BO


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-HE-70-P...EAAOSwFh5gJvvM


Heinkel He 72 D-EFYR & **+AB



https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-X-2-LOT...EAAOSwhLNgJvUl


Klemm Kl 35 NP+**


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-KL-35-K...MAAOSwmWhgJvYa


Messerschmitt Bf 108 NF+**


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-ME-BF-1...wAAOSwSIRgJwWy



Luftwaffe Photos on ebay


https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from...=15502&_sop=10

https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_from...biplano&_oac=1

https://www.ebay.fr/sch/1/i.html?_fr...Desc=0&_sop=10



Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 13th February 2021 15:26

Re: Photos Luftwaffe Trainers
 
Clint

If you look again on the He 72B "D-E+FYR" (on the top wing) at least I believe
I can see a WL prefix meaning we have a rough time table for the shot in question.

Cheers
Stig


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