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Chris Goss 21st March 2021 18:41

II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
Six aircrew were captured after being shot down attacking shipping off Corsica; were any 'K' Reports or similar filed for these?

Steve Coates 21st March 2021 20:27

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
I'd reckon your best bet would be the CSDIC Interrogs in AIR 40/3117.

Laurent Rizzotti 22nd March 2021 00:10

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
According to all my sources, two aircraft of II./KG 100 were shot down off Corsica that day. Roba's KG 100 book give the crew and lists 7 MIA and 2 POW. The book "Pilotes français sur l'Afrique du Nord et la Corse" says that three POW were interrogated:
Uffz Franz Bauer (23 years old), flying enginner/air gunner (listed as MIA by Roba)
Uffz Hugo Kratz (23), flying enginner/air gunner. Joined KG 100 in JUly 1943 in Cognac, fought on Eastern Front in 1942
Obgfr Arno Widra (21), radio. His aircraft was sent to take pictures of the raid and did not carry bombs (Roba said that he was lying).

This book does not list his sources for the above.

Chris Goss 22nd March 2021 00:30

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
Thanks both. 3 aircraft were lost & 4 claimed & thanks to Steve & Nick Beale I have most of what i seek

Laurent Rizzotti 25th March 2021 13:51

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
Chris, I have two Do 217 shot down in Ajjacio area and a third damaged and crashing at Istres on return. According to MAW04 the latter was only damaged at 25% Do you have the same ?

Chris Goss 25th March 2021 14:18

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
Laurent: A Ju 88 and two Do 217 E-5s off Corsica and one got back with 4 crew wounded and surprisingly just 25% damage

Laurent Rizzotti 25th March 2021 14:37

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
I am just replying to your thread on the Allied forum, and I said that the Ju 88 claimed is not identified. I will be interested to know if you have a confirmed loss for it.

Chris Goss 25th March 2021 16:48

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
I have:
1.(F)/33, Ju 88 D-1, 1451, 8H+KH
Uffz Baldur Umlauf-F- +
Oblt Hans Ebert-B-+
Uffz Hans Tischer-BF- +
Gefr Gerhard Krempig-BS-+

BF's Ausweis was found in the wreckage which confirms identity


Laurent Rizzotti 26th March 2021 19:59

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
Thanks for the crew list. None of them are listed in Volksbund. One of my books seems to say that the Ju 88 crashed on land, and the fact that the wreckage was searched seems to confirm that, but I have no idea if bodies were found and what they became.

As a side note, the book "Pilotes français sur l'Afrique du nord et la Corse" has one of the Do 217 crashing at a precise place, "la ferme de Sanccia", near Ajjacio. Can you confirm that one of lost Do 217 crashed on land? In this case, Allied services will probably be very interested to search a bomber using the new Hs 293, I guess. It may have been the first such wreck to fall in their hands. Has anyone something on one of these wrecks ?

pierre2b 27th March 2021 09:43

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
Crew list :

Flugzeugführer Uffz BACHMANN, Ernst, verletzt
Beobachter Ogfr DOERPER, Joachim, verletzt
Bordfunker Ogfr WERNER, Kurt, verletzt
Bordschütze Ogfr Huß, Günther HÛSS, verletzt

verk : 5605 6N+AN

Chris Goss 27th March 2021 10:11

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
I believe the Ju 88 did come down on land hence the discovery of the ausweis. I have nothing definite as to a Do 217 crashing on land but remains of Hs 293s were recovered from the sea

Chris Goss 27th March 2021 15:35

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
Bit of digging-6N+MP came down in the sea while 6N+KA crashed just on the beach at Villanova 1705 hrs

Laurent Rizzotti 29th March 2021 17:16

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
Thanks Chris

Stig Jarlevik 30th March 2021 10:22

Re: II./KG 100 30 Sep 43
 
Thanks from me too

Very interesting update to MAW 4 with the loss of the Ju 88 D!

B Rgds
Stig


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