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Phil Irwin 7th September 2021 14:10

Heinkel 111 recovered from sea photo
 
Way back in the 1970s (and as a young boy!!) I bought a book here in the UK that had a photo which I remember as being described as a German bomber being recovered from the sea.

It was either taken from a trawler or a Navy ship, looking over the side at the (port?) wing of a He111 that was sticking out of the sea and alongside the ship. It may have had cables going down into the sea.

If anyone knows this photo please let me know, it's been driving me mad trying to remember where I saw it !!

Chris Goss 7th September 2021 19:33

Re: Heinkel 111 recovered from sea photo
 
Doesn’t ring a bell but a photo of a Wellington being pulled out of the sea does

Franek Grabowski 7th September 2021 20:17

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Was not there a Ju 88 recovered in Spain?

John Manrho 7th September 2021 21:17

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Wasn't there part of a He 111 recovered in the IJsselmeer in the sixties? I also remember such a picture.

Jaap Woortman 8th September 2021 10:23

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John,

The only He 111 recovered in the IJsselmeer was :
April 1976, Gooimeer, He 111 of 1./KG 126.
Crashdate 23.5.1940.
Small parts only.

Source : Summary of aircraft recovered by the RNETHAF since 1960.
Published 1 September 1989 by Ministry of Defence, Directorate of Information.

The picture has been scanned from Onze Koninklijke Luchtmacht part 3.

Jaap

Brian Bines 8th September 2021 11:22

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There was a number of photos of the recovery of a Ju88 from the sea identified in Vol 1 of the Luftwaffe Crash Archive has 4D+AP lost 29th.March 1940 , a possibility ? I believe this was lifted at an angle so a wing would have appeared first I cannot remember where these photos came from possibly online the Crash Archive has one photo of the complete aircraft being lifted out.

John Manrho 8th September 2021 12:54

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Jaap, that was the picture I remembered. Not sure if this was the He 111 of 23.5.1940. It does not seem to be "small parts only"....

ssg keay 10th September 2021 04:11

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[quote=Jaap Woortman;310188]John,

The only He 111 recovered in the IJsselmeer was :
April 1976, Gooimeer, He 111 of 1./KG 126.
Crashdate 23.5.1940.
Small parts only.

How is that small parts only? That is a huge fuselage section! :)

Nick Beale 10th September 2021 08:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 310168)
Doesn’t ring a bell but a photo of a Wellington being pulled out of the sea does

And there was the one in the Brooklands Museum that was raised from Loch Ness.

David Ransome 10th September 2021 10:25

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Re: Phil Irwin's original post - I have an original press release photo 20cm x 25cm of what I suspect to be the aircraft in question but with the starboard wing and an engine showing but no identifying details. Piece of paper attached to back states:

Nazi planes give up their secrets - even from the seas
Associated press photo shows: a different kind of "rescue" this time - a Nazi Heinkel 111 plane, shot down into the sea off the coast of Britain, is here being seen lifted from the sea and hauled aboard a British patrol vessel. Such planes are always salvaged by these vessels where possible. In many cases they yield valuable secrets as to their construction, engine details, and armament, etc. - and if the salvaged plane gives us no fresh information at the least it provides us with valuable scrap metal to assist the war effort on OUR side.
EAL. 239260/AP. 1493B

I can't imagine the aircraft being hauled aboard, and would think being 'carried' to shore along side the vessel more likely. I'm no expert when it comes to ships but from what can be seen of it and crew in the photo it seems fairly small.

edNorth 12th September 2021 18:48

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3737 He 111 H-5 1H+KL I/KG 26 (Luftwaffe)
OPS (F) shot down in sea (100%) off Faroe Islands 21.02.1941 (after bombing the trawler Lincoln City at Torshavn; Fw. Helmut Much, Oblt. Heinz Rönnau, Fw. Johann Thaler and Fw. Konrad Roick mis) - Parts of this machine were salvaged by SS LAMERICK and landed at Leith on 09.03.1941

- I remember this pic (and tieup) but my filing system is now classified as "failing on most part" or has "holes" in it, whichever comes first. Anyways gets larger as to proportional to as more is taken away.
Addenda: Possibly I saw a pic in old contemporary Aeroplane or Flight, and perhaps giving name of trawler etc. He 111 was on left side of trawler, bottom to ships hull with right wing and engine near vertical,

I think it might have been recovered by divers in remote location some where near coast (of Faroes)

Ed.

Phil Irwin 12th September 2021 21:44

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Thanks for everyone's input, I remember it as having been a wartime recovery. David your photo sounds promising. Any chance of a small view of it?

David Ransome 14th September 2021 11:29

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Hi Phil,

First time that I've attached anything - let's see if it works!

Phil Irwin 13th October 2021 13:50

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Cant see anything David, can you pm me and I will let you have my email. Thanks

Chris Goss 13th October 2021 17:48

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Thanks to the crash, attachments are not visible/possible

Chris Goss 20th October 2021 15:06

Re: Heinkel 111 recovered from sea photo
 
Further to earlier posts, a photo has emerged showing a starboard wing being lifted from the sea and on the back it says off the British coast but no date. Another source also has this photo with the date January 1941 which would not indicate it as being the 3./KG 26 one on 23 Feb 41 but He 111 H-5, 3638, A1+JK of 2./KG 53 shot down off Canvey island 16 Jan 41


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