Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

Hi,

How many C75's actually saw service in the FAF ?
What is the highest serial number known and what is the link with the underwing numbers/letters if any ?

Alex

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

I don't understand why this post was moved to the Luftwaffe/Axis board. Was France part of the Axis powers in 1939-40?

All Curtiss H-75A-1s, A-2s and most A-3s were put into service. As for the A-4s or H-751s the exact number is still a subject of controversy but no more than a dozen were used during the Campaign of France.

The "Matricules Militaires" alloted to the H-75As were:
- X-800 to X-899 for the A-1s (n° 1 to 100)
- U-001 to U-100 for the A-2s (n° 101 to 200)
Their use was discontinued on A-3s and A-4s for security purpose.
Hope this helps.

Chris

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

Moved again?
Thanks Ruy.

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

Hi CJE,

do you have a list with losses of CH-75 planes?
I have some data but I want to make a cross-check.

Regards

Robert

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

Yes I must have but not the time to gather all the data because many losses have not been officially recorded and have to be checked one by one.
Sorry.

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

I could send you may database. It could be a good starting point.

Robert

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

Chris: This post was moved to "Allied and Soviet" part of the Board, where it is now, from the Luftwaffe and Axis. It specifically asks about H-75s, not in Luftwaffe service, but "FAF", which I presumed was French Air Force.

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

My mistake, John.
Thanks.

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

hello,
Yes, it was my mistake , I placed the thread on the wrong page.
And yes FAF = French Air force.

So as for How many C-75's I take it that from what CJE says the answer in short is "It is not known how many".

And as for "what the highest serial number known was" has not been taken up by the contributors as yet.

Or "what if any was the link between the serial number and the underwing number" has not been taken up either .

Thank you

Alex

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

Re the link between Matricule Militaire (underwing number) and serial number, see Chris's reply on the 26th.

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

Thanks Graham.
As for the H-751 (or H-75A-4), I intend to publish an article on this topic and I'm not keen on giving up my info on a board.

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

Hello,

Chris, I quite agree that you might wish to keep it for now until your A-4 article is made public. No problem, please let us know when and how we may aquire a copy.

Many thanks

Alex

P.S
The link between the underwing numbers and a/c serial numbers .
What is the link between them ?
From what I have read it seems that the numbers differe by one in each case. Why was this ? Also did the numbers AlWAYS run concurrently ?

Thanks Again

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

Alex,

Thanks for your understanding. Don't worry, I'll let you know.

U-001 is s/n 101
U-002 is n° 102
and so on...
It works the same way as the USAF buzz-numbers and had the same purpose: identify the bloody pilot who turned sour the cow milk in buzzing around the pastures.

Re: Curtis Hawk 75's in French service.
 

Hello,
From what you say Chris that would make the following

DS+NQ = No:24 = "X-821"
KQ+ZA = No:30 = "X-827"
Correct ?

But then would it also be true that
No:1 = 12798 = "X-800"
No:24 = 12821
No:30 = 12827
or did they not run concurrently ?

Thanks

Alex