Updated Luftwaffe Shipping Claims List
 

Hej all
Just a 'heads up' that Andrew Arthy and Adam Thompson have updated their list of Luftwaffe Shipping Claims ranging from 09.39 to 20.02.45.
You can find it as a free download here: LINK
Enjoy!

All the best
Morten
On behalf of the Air War Publications Team

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Thank you Morten!


All the best


Andreas

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Had a quick look through it. Seems to be missing HMS Latona, and some detail on HMS Auckland?

http://rommelsriposte.com/2021/12/28...a-25-oct-1941/

http://rommelsriposte.com/2022/04/12...-24-june-1941/

Happy to enter the detail into the spreadsheet if you are interested, and email it to you.

All the best

Andreas

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Thanks for the info, Morton.

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Very solid work! Thanks for this link and thanks to Andrew & Adam!

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Hi,

It is a work in progress, so expect more updates in the future. The list is just short of 1,000 claims at the moment, but we still have many sources to go through.

A special thanks should go to Andy Mitchell, who has spent a lot of time putting together the early war claims.

Andreas, please do update the spreadsheet and send it to us - that would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com

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I am having gremelin problems with this link I can't view or download it. I do have some data ect for it

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Morten,

Only one entry for Erprobungsgruppe 210, in February 1941...?

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Hi John,

It is very much a work in progress, with lots more sources to go through, so no doubt more Erprobungsgruppe 210 claims will appear in the next update. We just have to find the time to do the research.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com/earticles

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Over at TSAMO/German Docs in Russsia, Akte 100/Lagebericht 364 of 4 September 1940 has six pages of shipping claimed damaged or sunk up from 1–31 August 1940: https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/...inspect/zoom/5

And John will be pleased to know that there are nine (by my quick count) involving "ZG 210" and "Zerst. Gr. 210".

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Again I can't see or download the above. Is anyone else having this problem? I made a post on this site about Soviet Fugas minesweepers and the dates ect when they were sunk or damaged by Axis aircraft. Some one else added some other dates. My info was from Warship magazine which has other articles on Soviet warships.

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Hi James,

You may find this book to be of interest.

https://www.usni.org/press/books/war...eets-1939-1945

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Hi James,

Apologies, I missed your initial post in this thread. Please send me your email address via private message, and I can send you a copy of the spreadsheet.

All the best,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com/earticles.

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Andrew here is my e mail:

jamesapratt3@yahoo.com

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Ed will read the book one day

on the greatearforum.org
on the sailors,navies and the war at sea I made a post "Ships damaged, attacked and sunk by aircraft in WW I" for those interested

For WW II this is from the book "No Room For Mistakes" by Geirr H Haarr on Allied submarine ops 1939-40 I have some info for this subject:

1940
16 Jun HMS/M Porpoise most likely missed 2 Ar-196s from Scharnhorst
19 Hun HMS/M Clyde missed by AR-196 Gneisenau
25 Jul (not Jun) HMS/M Trinton missed Ar-196 from Hipper

4 may HMS/M Seal very slight damage He-115 KuFlGr 706

14 may Neth S/M O24 strafed by one German fighter off the Netherlands

5 Jul HMS/M Shark badly damaged later sinks Ar-196 1/196 LtnzS Gottschalk and Unt Manjok T3+LH

6 Jul destroyer HMS Fame damaged

20 Mar Neth trawler Protinus sunk He-111 KG 26 10 crew 2 die rest saved HMS/M Unity 25 Mar

22 jul HMS/M Narwhal sunk Do-17 1/KFlGr 606 Obltn Karl Muller with a little help from B-Dienst

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Hi James,

Thanks very much for those - we'll include the details in our next update.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com/earticles

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There was only one sortie from SCHARNHORST that day (Ar.196 "T3+BH" from 1./196, crew Ludwig/Reuter) to seek some sunken submarine in qu. 5697. Fly from 10.00 to 12.02 - no signs of sub was found. Second sortie of same machine was cancelled due bad weather. Source: KTB of Bordfliegerstaffel 1./196, NARA T-1022, roll 3359.
Equally nothing in SCHARNHORST's KTB. There we can found a statement, that
sub was sunk by GNEISENAU's airplane 16.6.40. Indeed, a plane started in 00.00 and downed 02.32 reports about sinking CLYDE-type sub in qu. 5659r, 22 miles north of Halten Light. Alas i don't know planes code and crew.
PS - 19.6.40 plane from GNEISENAU indeed attacked sub almost in same area and in same time (qu. 5697, Halten Bank), flight 00.00-02.15.

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HIPPER marched from Trondheim beginning from 17.00. No starts for arados recorded for this date.

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There was no attack by 1./706 on subs 22.7.40.
Sub was claimed as destroyed only next day 23.7.40 in 14.55 by Do.17Z from 1./706 coded "7T+EH" with Lt.z.S Muller as Beobachter, in qu. 4856

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Hi Igor,

Thank you for providing those additions - I've made note of them.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com/earticles

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Ooops! I made a typo on HMS/M Narwhal according to wiki the wreck of this sub may have been located. Will get back on the rest.

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Page 309 of No room for mistake has "2 Arado aircraft from Scharnhorst" looks like the author made a mistake

page 295 I made a mistake it is 26 june Arado flown by Ltn Frendenthal with Unt Koch in the back seat. Sighted submarine east of Nordoyan lighthouse. Two 50-kg bombs dropped from 300 meters straddled the boat and, during a second pass, several hits were recorded from the 20mm cannon. The submarine dived with a appartent list, leaving air bubbles and an oil slick. The claim for a sunken submarine was accepted and Admiral Marschall awarded the Iron Cross, first class to the crew. The submarine was the Trinton which reported the attack and escaped undamaged.

RN MTB and MGB losses do to air attack
 

I may have posted this 20+ years ago this is a list of RN MTBs and MGBs sunk by aircraft most/all by the Luftwaffe in WW II from Leonard C Reynolds books
Home Waters MTBs and MGB at War 1939-1945
Dogboats at war

10/11 Jan 41 destroyed in bombing raid on Vospers's Camber Yard:
MTB 37,39, 40, 74(i), 75(i), 108 (ii)

14 Jun43 MTB 648 sunk by aircraft off Pantelleria

MGBs
11 Jul 42 14 and 15 CTL air raid on Lowestoft

6 Nov 42 19 Bombed on slip Oulton Broad Portsmouth

10/11 Mar 41 98 lost bombing at HMS Hornet Gosport/ Portsmouth