The Luftwaffe Archives & Records Reference Group???
 

Stumbled across a resource called The Luftwaffe Archives & Records Reference Group:

https://lwag.org/

It looks like it has some interesting threads but the whole thing is locked, won't let you register and appears to have been last in use in 2016 - yet you can still see the titles of the various forums/threads - but cannot open them!

Am I missing something?

Re: The Luftwaffe Archives & Records Reference Group???
 

No it was closed, and only those who were members at the time can still acces it.
Junker

Re: The Luftwaffe Archives & Records Reference Group???
 

Similar to what happened with the Luftwaffe Experten Message Board. To see years of work end up like this. Books and magazines will not do this to you.

Ed

Re: The Luftwaffe Archives & Records Reference Group???
 

Very sad and a pity: it seems a waste, as I'm sure many could contribute and learn more, thus driving the hive knowledge forward.

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Indeed. Closed information cost nothing without release. Even if someone payed for it.

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That did not feel well. Magazines and Books will tell same old lies forever. Rememenber Ju 88 A-0, B-0 etc. (always at default 10 each). A-2 (sic), all them at end of war A-6/U found with Radar (sic), Ju 188 E-0, Ju 188 S-1/U for ground attack. (Encyclopedia Antony Eden Aerospace 2004. Printed in Singapore.) Add this to fiction. I keep it on my shelf on how not to do it.

But site you mentioned was so bad after all its worthless. I regret trying be part of that and officially apologize.

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I bought a few bad books over the years. LWAG was a worthy attempt. And while some inaccuracies have been cleared up, much remains to be done. This site is doing a very good job.

I will close with this. Unless a backup is stored in the Cloud or some other means of storage, I would hate to see this site disappear as it briefly did around October of last year.

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Ah Eggert, you're always such an adorable little ray of sunshine!
You needn't waste time on silly apologies -- your focus should be on getting your manuscript completed and published. The world is waiting, breathlessly...

Yes, the lwag.org site was a labor of love, created by Richard Eger and a host of collaborators. For many years, it served as a useful guide to Luftwaffe research resources around the world, and a valuable collation of information from disparate sources.
It might have fallen a bit short of its ambitious goals because it was such a massive and labor-intensive undertaking, but denigrating it as "worthless" is an affront to the cooperative and generous spirit in which it was founded.

The site is reachable (so someone is still paying the hosting and domain registration fees), but it appears to be crippled now.
The home page (lwag.org), the forums page (lwag.org/forums), and the various forum pages (e.g. "Archives in the USA") seem to work OK, but:

• On each forum page, the links to individual threads (e.g. "Archives in the USA" > "NARA & NASM Research Offer") have been disabled.
• The Log-in and Registration mechanisms are non-functional.
• The Search and paging features have been disabled.

I used to be a member, but I'm no longer able to log in.

Jörn, do you (or anyone else) still have full site access? If so, then the contents will definitely be salvageable. I'll gladly volunteer to do that, so I'd appreciate it if someone could put me in touch with the current LWAG site owner/administrator.

Yes, that was a huge wake-up call. I did archive most of the old version of TOCH (1998-2004), and I'm currently working on doing the same for this one.

Leon Venter

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I was not reffering to LWAG which I was never part of. L(E)MB everybody should forget.
Manuscript has been written all time along, but I am seeking some obscure tie-ups
but mid war "why" development appears solved for most parts.

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Leon,

Thank you for your reply. I feel relieved now. And while we're on the subject of saving our work, I'd like to bring up a somewhat delicate subject.
Some authors, and researchers with photo and/or document collections, sometimes do not make provision for where their work/collections would
go after they pass. I know I am reluctant to deal with this myself. But I am taking some action. There was a recent case here where
the person had passed on and files were on his computer. As I recall, no one had access. It would be a shame to see work lost like that, or anywhere
else on this somewhat tenuous place called the internet.

Best,
Ed West

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Coincidentally there is a discussion on this over on the RAF Commands forum

Re: The Luftwaffe Archives & Records Reference Group???
 

If you propose to sit on the correct information for an indefinite period, the least you can do is accept that people will use what is actually available to them in the meantime.

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Progress is good. No worries.

Suppose if you ask and get correct Ju 88 info but choose ignore and
and re-use 1960s William Green instead. That would probably ruin
the authors reputation, if publicly known, right?

So I strongly disagree. Do not write same sh..* over and over, please.

So far have I answered all queries asked, so not "sitting on" correct info (sic) but just my research resaults. Not commenting if not certain or if my answers can be exploited by scrupilous people throwing 700 Euros after blurry photo, and then ask for info, but not showin what they got in first place. So you get nothing for nothing.


ed

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What an odd perspective. I've seen a few examples of people trying to correct others or claiming to have better information, but little comes of it.
Progress and putting well-documented information out there should be the goal, not berating persons unknown. Or books from the past.

One problem with the internet is that total amateurs can publish books. People with no experience or who have done no original research.
Print books are not immune. I made the mistake of buying a book that violated every rule of graphic design and those of proper layout.
It was terrible in terms of content as well. My years working for a book publishing company meant I had to know the rules.
I have been called in by the head graphic designer to solve various problems. Problems that cannot be solved by watching a few videos or 5 minutes on the internet.

My point is: The learning time will never be shortened. It does not go away.

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Not surprizing view from a person mostly into fiction and novels,
but you seem be derating yourself.

Re: The Luftwaffe Archives & Records Reference Group???
 

From the Oxford English Dictionary "Derate: to remove all or part of a burden of rates". (In the UK "rates" are a form of property tax).

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Completely irrelavant comment. Lacks all Aviation content. We are discussing that are we not, no? Derating (e.g. helicopter engines) was done in order to improve reliability by pulling less power.
The comment made by other commenter contained prior known, what obscure work exsperiance (already has written so, but yet no known proofer) and suggest matörish writer no own research.
Just slander. Move off. Nothing to happen here.
I am published (native language and tiny the other Sprache oder Zwei) I know of the rules of books (and how to write them). Also know some very bad ones.
Worked my own layout back over 30 years ago. And am conneted and have contributed stuff to many others in both Britain and Germany. Some members here know.

Re: The Luftwaffe Archives & Records Reference Group???
 

On the contrary, your post made only limited sense as it stood, hence my intervention, while your latest appears largely devoted to asserting your own credentials. It seems, therefore, a good time to close this thread down.