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Doug Stankey 21st March 2023 16:39

Luftwaffe Officer Summaries for 2023
 
We would like to announce the availability of the Luftwaffe Officers Career Summaries for 2023. With this edition, the statistics are:
Total number of officers represented are: 92,914 in 4, 919 pages for a real gain of 3,218 officers and 192 pages of information beyond that of last year's edition.
Changes: 6,164 officers altered (includes all deletions and additions).
New officers added: 3,281
Deletions: 366

At the current rate of expansion, we should attain the total of 100,000 officers in about three years. This is approaching the theoretical total of 120,000 which had supposedly existed in total.

Enjoy!
Larry deZeng IV
Douglas G. Stankey

Adriano Baumgartner 21st March 2023 16:46

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DOUG and LARRY,

Your fantastic work have helped hundreds of researchers and historians alike during the years. We do have NO WORDS to express our GRATITUDE and ADMIRATION. A trully remarkable work.

ALL the best

Adriano

RudiS 21st March 2023 17:20

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Thanks very much for charing all of this with us. Your work is highly appreciated.

edwest2 21st March 2023 17:29

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My sincere thanks. A project of this magnitude is very much appreciated.

Nick Beale 21st March 2023 18:06

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Thanks yet again. These summaries are an invaluable resource, helping make sense of so many other documents.

VtwinVince 21st March 2023 18:21

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I agree, a monumental and worthy project.

Siko54 21st March 2023 19:26

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Thank you both :)

TigerTimon 21st March 2023 20:18

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Wow. What a huge effort. Appreciated!

Snautzer 21st March 2023 21:57

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Great!

Andrey Kuznetsov 21st March 2023 22:11

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Really great!

ZhekaB 21st March 2023 22:18

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Thanks a lot!

FalkeEins 21st March 2023 22:41

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first port of call when I need to check something, so thanks! That said you don't appear to have taken on board any feedback I've sent in, so wondering how that works ? ( eg see the entry on Stamp )

Andy Mitchell 21st March 2023 23:06

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Thanks for these.

More reading matter......:D

igorrB 22nd March 2023 06:00

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Thanks! It is very good stuff!

DDT 22nd March 2023 07:32

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Well done! indispensable! Keep up the good work.

Richard Mills 22nd March 2023 10:09

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A sincere thank you to you both for maintaining this extremely valuable resource.

This is indispensable for any Luftwaffe research, at any level.

Marcel Hogenhuis 22nd March 2023 11:25

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Hello Larry and Doug,

It is no secret that everyone in this community checks your priceless database whenever one comes across a name of a Luftwaffe officer ! I will soon check my name list with your updated database and do hope to send you a few new names. Many, many thanks and keep up the good work !

Marcel

richdlc 22nd March 2023 15:51

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many thanks for your hard work guys!

Spanferkel 23rd March 2023 03:09

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Excellent!! A source I use frequently!!

Thanks for your efforts.

kaki3152 23rd March 2023 04:40

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Can someone provide a link to the 2023 Officer Summary?

DDT 23rd March 2023 08:29

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This Shouf work:
http://www.ww2.dk/
Kind regards,

Dirk

Chris Goss 23rd March 2023 09:14

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A superb database and I would encourage all to assist Larry & Doug with additions and weeding out duplications & the inevitable inaccuracies

leonventer 23rd March 2023 23:42

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Doug and Larry,

Thank you for your ongoing maintenance of one of the main pillars of Luftwaffe research.

I especially appreciate:
  • the extent of the biographical data in each officer's summary.
  • your well-thought-out conventions for data entry, and the consistency of your data formatting.
  • your provision of a change log with each new edition of the summary. It's a useful resource, and it provides a very impressive insight into your dedication and thoroughness.
Much obliged,
Leon Venter

Larry deZeng 24th March 2023 15:46

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A most sincere and appreciated THANK YOU to all for your most thoughtful comments. They are our reward for the many thousands of hours spent compiling the Summaries!

Larry & Doug :):piliot::wave:

Gunther 27th March 2023 22:55

Luftwaffe officer careers
 
A massive database.

https://www.ww2.dk/lwoffz.html


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(1st Draft 2012)

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Chrisyates 20th November 2023 12:42

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Is it just me but when I click on the Officer Career summary link I am diverted to here, the TOCH home page. It was working properly a week ago.
TIA Chris

Chris Goss 20th November 2023 13:44

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Works OK for me

AndyMa 22nd November 2023 12:38

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A minor update concerning

Josef Bisping:
†13/14.02.45 Hptm., 3./Vers.Verb.OKL KIA - in Ar 234 B-2/N (SM+FE) crash while attempting a night take-off from Havelhausen near Oranienburg. [Version #2: 23.02.45 Hptm., 3./Versuchverband OKL KIA - Ar 234 B-2N crashed following a night take-off from Oranienburg.] Buried at Oranienburg-Lehnitz.

Albert Vogl
13/14.02.45 Hptm., with Versuchverbandes OKL airborne radar operator, KIA – in Ar
234 B-2/N V15 (SM+FE) that crashed near Oranienburg when the airfield lights were abruptly switched off causing the a/c to stall. Buried in Lehnitz

These two entries can be tidied (they were killed in same aircraft).
The date is confirmed as 13.02.45, there are photos off their graves at:
http://www.luftkrieg-oberhavel.de/webs/germany/g022.htm
Also, the aircraft was not V15, which was WNr.130025, but WNr.140145. SM+FE is correct.

Larry deZeng 22nd November 2023 16:09

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Thank you, AndyMa!!

L. deZ. & D. Stankey

TigerTimon 2nd January 2024 16:14

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First of all: best wishes for the new year 2024!
I too have a minor update, concerning:
HOLLAENDER, Rolf. c.01.44 Hptm., Kp.-Chef Stabskomp. I./NJG 2.


August 1940: Leutnant in 5./NJG 1 (Do 17Z U5+BB & G9+JN), from September 1940 in 2./NJG 2 (unit was converted, Do 17Z R4+YK) - source: Flugbuch Kurt Wacker
||
7 January 1943: 24.00 - 05.00 Geburtstagfeier von Oblt. Holländer.

15 December 1943: Oblt Holländer begrüßt
(logbook Elsässer, member of Ergänzungsstaffel/NJG 2)
||
April 1945: car crash while serving with II./NJG 2 (presumably Stab II./NJG 2).
In Roth wieder sofortige Weiterverlegung nach Pocking am 3. April 1945.

In der Gegend von Ingolstadt mußte ich übernachten, weil ich vor Müdigkeit nicht mehr fahren konnte. Nacht guter Bewirtung auf dem Bauernhof ging es am anderen Morgen weiter. Etwa 1 km danach verursachte ich einen Unfall mit den Citroen-PKW. Dabei wurden eine mitfahrende Nachrichtenhelferin and ich schwer verletzt, der mitfahrende Waffeninspektor erhielt nur Prellungen, das Kleinkind der Helferin erlitt keinen Schaden und kam zu den Bauern.
Im Lazarett in Ingolstadt verblieb ich bis zum 16.4.45. Auf eigene Verantwortung verließ ich das Lazarett, um meine Einheit in Pocking aufzusachen.
Die Stabskompanie befand sich in Auflösung, Teile kamen zur Eisenbahnflak.
Ich selbst fuhr unter schwierigen Bedingungen nach Hause, um mich weiter in ärztliche Behandlung zu begeben.
('Verlegung der II./NJG 2 von Vechta nach Wiener-Neustadt' von Rolf Hollaender)


Spelling according to the Flugbücher and logbook Elsässer is 'Holländer'.


Kind regards,
Timon

Larry deZeng 2nd January 2024 16:57

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Thank you, Timon!

L. deZ.

retje 7th January 2024 02:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerTimon (Post 335082)
Spelling according to the Flugbücher and logbook Elsässer is 'Holländer'.

The name of Rolf Hollaender is written with "ae" and not "ä". (Source: documents from the estate of Rolf Hollaender and comments from his family).

retje

TigerTimon 22nd August 2024 12:11

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Thank you, retje.

Another comment I have is the following. For Major Karl Montag, the document gives Credited with 3 victories.

However, the three victories he scored while serving as a Zerstörer pilot were all rejected by the OKL/RLM Abschusskommission.
In my opinion, 'credited with' gives the impression that he scored three confirmed victories. I would suggest saying: "Made three victory claims which were rejected."


Kind regards,
Timon

FalkeEins 1st January 2025 18:54

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ZANTOPP, Hans-Joachim. (DOB: 22.03.22). 13.08.43 Lt. Stab III./KG 100 POW - Do 217 K-2 (6N+BD)

spelling in A.I. 660 (19 August 43) is ZANTROPP

Larry deZeng 1st January 2025 20:34

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The 01.07.44 entry below is from Luftwaffen-Personalamt Dienstalterliste documents and spell his last name ZANTOPP.

It would be interesting to know how Ulf Balke spells the name in his unit history of KG 100, and the same for Christopher Shores' Mediterranean Air War, Volume Four. Additionally, does BA-MA Freiburg Signatur PERS6 have his personnel file?

L. deZ.

ZANTOPP, Hans-Joachim. (DOB: 22.03.22). 13.08.43 Lt. Stab III./KG 100 POW - Do 217 K-2 (6N+BD) lost during an anti-shipping mission to Syracuse, shot down 30 km N of Milazzo - rescued by Walrus of 283 Sqdn. 01.07.44 promo to Oblt./A1.

John Manrho 1st January 2025 22:07

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I have his name as ZANTOPP...source WASt. BAMA in Pers6/169656 also

Larry deZeng 1st January 2025 23:29

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Excellent, then, that settles it, John. That's good enough for me.

L. deZ.

Chris Goss 2nd January 2025 00:20

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Definitely Zantopp-he gets a mention in mention in my Do 217 book

FalkeEins 2nd January 2025 18:45

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indeed! On p88, his name having presumably been corrected on the document you've quoted from, his subsequent interrogation in the UK. Thanks!

Nick Beale 2nd January 2025 19:05

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When in doubt, I recommend checking names on the Diffusion des Nachnamen (distribution of surnames) map at https://www.kartezumnamen.eu

Trying the alternatives, there's a nil return for the name Zantropp but 58 instances of Zantopp.


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