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List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Hi all!

Can anybody help to complete this list?

List is updating and correcting day by day. If You have any info, pls let me know posting here.

Date (from - to), Rank, Name, Reason of dismiss (KiA, MiA, WiA, transfer, Staffel resignation)

1 Staffel:

1./ZG 1, (First formation)

? ????? 1939 - 6.9.1939, Major. Karl Hammes, KiA, Bf 110 C, shot down in aerial combat;
7.9.1939 – 1 July 40, Oblt. Martin Lutz (Staffel renaimed 1./Erpr.Gr. 210);

1./Erpr.Gr. 210

1 July 40 – 4 September 40, Oblt.Martin Lutz, (moved to acting-Gruppenkommandeur of Erpr.Gr. 210);
4 September 40 - 27 September 40 Oblt.Werner Weymann, (moved to acting-Gruppenkommandeur of Erpr.Gr. 210);
27 September 40 – 24 April 41, Oblt. Wolfgang Schenck (Staffel renaimed 1./SKG 210);

1./SKG 210

24 April 41 - 24 September 1941, Oblt. Wolfgang Schenck, (transferred to Rechlin to test Me 210)
24 September 1941 - 4 January 1942, Oblt. Rudolf Scheffel (Staffel renaimed 1./ZG 1);

1./ZG 1, (Second formation)

4 January 1942 - 26 July 42, Oblt. Rudolf Scheffel, WiA, Bf 110 F-2, Pilot wounded on combat mission;
27 July 1942 - 30 January 1943, Oblt. Eduard Tratt, WiA, Bf 110 G-2, Direct hit from Flak on combat mission;
30 January 1943 – 08 October 43, Oblt. Rudiger Ossmann, KiA, Bf 110 G-2, Shot down in combat with British / American bombers;

1./ZG 1, (Third formation)

?? October 43 - 12 December 43, Oblt. Hermann Horstmann, MiA, Ju 88 C-6, Missing following combat with Beaufighters;
12 December 43 - 11 April 44, Hptm. Günther Moltrecht, KiA, Ju 88 R-2, Missing following combat with Mosquitos;
11 April 44 - 9 June 44 - Lt Knud Gmelin, KiA, Ju 88 C-6, Shot down by Flak over Caen area.

2 Staffel:

2./ ZG 1, (First formation)

? ????? 1939 - 6.9.1939, Hptm.Horst Lehrmann, Bf 110 B, ???
6 June 1940 – 26 July 1940, Oblt. Werner Streib, (Staffel renaimed 2./NJG 1);

2./Erpr.Gr. 210

1 July 40 - 27 September 40, Oblt. Wilhelm-Richard Rössiger, KiA
27 September 40 - ????, Hptm. Georg Knappe, ????
?????;

2./SKG 210

24 April 41 – 29 July 41 - Oblt. Friedrich Amende, MiA, Bf 110 E-2, Did not return from armed;
29 July 41 – 14 August 41 Oblt. Fritz Andres, KiA, Bf 110 E-2, Received direct hit from Flak on combat mission to Jelnja;
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2./ ZG 1, (Second formation)

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2./ ZG 1, (Third formation)

October 43 - 7 November 43 - Oblt Kurt Necesany, (appointed Gruppe Ia (Operations Officer) of I./ZG 1)
7 November 43 - 12 July 44 - Oblt Albrecht Bellstedt, Staffel was renamed 6.(Sturm)/JG4

3 Staffel:

3./ZG 1, (First formation)

? ????? 1939 - 2.9.1939, Hptm. Wendelin von Müllenheim-Rehberg, Bf 110 C, shot down in aerial combat;
3.9.1939 - 26.06.40 - Oblt.Walter Ehle, (Staffel renaimed 3./NJG 1);

3./Erpr.Gr. 210

1 July 40 - 29 October 40 Oblt. Otto Hintze, PoW, ????;
29 October 40 - ???, Oblt. Peter Emmerich, ???
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3./SKG 210

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3./ZG 1, (Second formation)

3./ZG 1, (Third formation)

October 43 - 20 November 43 - Oblt Hans Schuster, Ju 88 C-6, Shot down in combat with Mosquito and Beaufighter.
Lt Alfred Klaus (Stellv) ???
January 1944 - 5 August 1944, Oblt Dieter Meister, Staffel renaimed 6.(Sturm)/JG4.

Thanks for attention & help,
With best wishes, Evgenij.

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

I./ZG 1 became I./ZG 26 in October 1943 (approx. 13.10.1943). Your Staffelkapitäne of 1./ZG 1 after Ossmann have no relation to the original unit. This new I./ZG 1 is a new unit (ex-V./KG 40) and has no relation to the old I./ZG 1. Of course the new I./ZG 26 became I./JG 6 in 1944.

regards,

John.

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Eugen: 13 Oct 43 was the changeover from V/KG 40 to I/ZG 1. So:

Gr Kdr: Hptm Horst Grahl

1 Staffel: Oblt Hermann Horstmann to 12 Dec 43; Hptm Guenther Moltrecht to 11 Apr 44; Lt Knud Gmelin to 9 Jun 44

2 Staffel: Oblt Kurt Necesany to 7 Nov 43; Oblt Albrecht Bellstedt to end

3 Staffel: Oblt Hans Schuster to 20 Nov 43; Lt Alfred Klaus (Stellv); Oblt Dieter Meister Jan 44-end

I/ZG 1 as a Ju 88 unit was disbanded 5 Aug 44

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Yep, thx for info Chris & John. Also, i found this :)

Quote:

On 13.10.43 renamed I./ZG26:

Stab I./ZG1 became Stab I./ZG26
1./ZG1 became 1./ZG26
2./ZG1 became 2./ZG26
3./ZG1 became 3./ZG26

Reformed 10.43 at Lorient from V./KG40 with:

Stab I./ZG1 from Stab V./KG40
1./ZG1 from 13./KG40
2./ZG1 from 14./KG40
3./ZG1 from 15./KG40

In 1.44 3./ZG1 and 7./ZG1 exchanged designations. On 12.7.44 moved to Welzow and was renamed II./JG4:

And Ossmann was StaKa of Staffel during Battle of Kursk, in july 1943... And could survive during that spoil of blood on 12 - 13 july over Bolkhov operation ...

Any information about StaKa's of 2 Staffel?

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Staka after Rössiger in 2./210 was Hptm. Georg Knappe.
Staka after Hintze was Oblt. Peter Emmerich.

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

THX for Info, John!

Did You received my email? There are some news & photoes...

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Eugen,

Yes, I got the e-mail. I have seen those photos before. But I do love all 'Wespe' photos!

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugen Gross

But how can I explain this note:

19 Septeber 42 - Oblt. Theo Kehl, MiA, Bf 110 F-2, Shot down by Russian fighters behind enemy lines South of Kotluban railway station.

How he could be StaKa 3./ZG 1 at same time as Tratt??????????????

Thanks for attention,
With best wishes, Evgenij.

I admit to an error in my 'Sting of the Luftwaffe' book. In the Namentliche Verlustmeldung (which I have just looked up) Kehl is not shown as Staka of 1./ZG 1. My mistake. Damn!!!

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Nice to hear it abot You like all Wespen photoes:)

But sorry... It seems You have all Wespe photoes, & there are no new photoes for You in all wourld whitch You dont seen before :) You are very happy man:)

I like Wespen to... But here in Russia are very few photoes aviable to see, because of lack books about ZG 1...

Look on this photoes: is it ZG 1? 126b - Bf110 has Yellow band "in Wespe" style, 241b - code "2N + __"

About Ossmann He served in I./SKG 210 & ZG 1, and had not less than 3 claims:

02.08.42 Ltn. Ossmann 1./ZG 1 I-153  0648: at 2-3 m. 18.10 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr. 9
19.09.42 Ltn. Ossmann 1./ZG 1 LaGG-3  südostw. Kotluban: 1.500 m. 06.12 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 11
17.07.43 Oblt. Ossmann 1./ZG 1 Pe-2  64 561: at 500 m. 05.31 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 24

P.S. I hope soon I will have german map, showing grids of Ostfront, to see direct locations of ZG 1 claims.

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Note also the following with regard to Erpr. Gr. 210: after the loss of Rubensdörffer on 15th August 1940, Martin Lutz became acting-Gr. Kdr. until the posting-in of von Boltenstern a few days later. With the arrival of von Boltenstern, Lutz reverted to Staka of 1./210.

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Manrho

I./ZG 1 became I./ZG 26 in October 1943 (approx. 13.10.1943). Your Staffelkapitäne of 1./ZG 1 after Ossmann have no relation to the original unit.

Sorry, I just missunderstood You... :) "After Ossmann", not "Ossmann".

:)

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Hi all!

List updated, adding info about Ritter Kreuz Targers.

John - could You please clear the Erpr.Gr. StaKas? With dates, if it is not hard for You...

Many thanks to You really, You help very mutch!

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evgeny Velichko (Post 30640)

Date (from - to), Rank, Name, Reason of dismiss (KiA, MiA, WiA, transfer, Staffel resignation)

1 Staffel:

1./ZG 1, (First formation)

? ????? 1939 - 6.9.1939, Major. Karl Hammes, KiA, Bf 110 C, shot down in aerial combat;
7.9.1939 – 1 July 40, Oblt. Martin Lutz (Staffel renaimed 1./Erpr.Gr. 210);

1./Erpr.Gr. 210

1./SKG 210

24 April 41 - 24 September 1941, Oblt. Wolfgang Schenck, (transferred to Rechlin to test Me 210)
24 September 1941 - 4 January 1942, Oblt. Rudolf Scheffel (Staffel renaimed 1./ZG 1);

1./ZG 1, (Second formation)

1./ZG 1, (Third formation)

2 Staffel:

2./ ZG 1, (First formation)

? ????? 1939 - 6 Sept 1939, Hptm.Horst Lehrmann, Bf 110 B, ???
6 June 1940 – 26 July 1940, Oblt. Günther Radusch, (Staffel renaimed 2./NJG 1);

2./Erpr.Gr. 210

1 July 40 - 27 September 40, Oblt. Wilhelm-Richard Rössiger, KiA
27 September 40 - ????, Hptm. Georg Knappe, ????
?????;

2./SKG 210

2./ ZG 1, (Second formation)

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2./ ZG 1, (Third formation)

October 43 - 7 November 43 - Oblt Kurt Necesany, (appointed Gruppe Ia (Operations Officer) of I./ZG 1)
7 November 43 - 12 July 44 - Oblt Albrecht Bellstedt, Staffel was renamed 6.(Sturm)/JG4

3 Staffel:

3./ZG 1, (First formation)

? ????? 1939 - 2.9.1939, Hptm. Wendelin von Müllenheim-Rehberg, Bf 110 C, shot down in aerial combat;
3.9.1939 - 26.06.40 - Oblt.Walter Ehle, (Staffel renaimed 3./NJG 1);

3./Erpr.Gr. 210

1 July 40 - 29 October 40 Oblt. Otto Hintze, PoW, ????;
29 October 40 - ???, Oblt. Peter Emmerich, ???
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3./SKG 210

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3./ZG 1, (Second formation)

4 January 1942 – 29 May 42, Oblt. Georg Boxhammer, KiA, Bf 110 F-2, Port engine failed after take-off, 10 Kms. east from Krakau airfield. Aircraft crashed;
29 May 42 – 18 September 42, Oblt. Robert Gebhardt, KiA, Bf 110 D-3, Aircraft hit by ground fire - crashed returning from mission, 1 Km. north- east of Jelampievskij, Stalingrad area;
19 september 1942 - April 1943 - Hptm. Wilfried Hermann. Appointed Gruppenkommandeur of I./ZG 1. KiA 14 july 1943, Flak hit, over Krapivna.
April 1943 - 23 july 43 Oblt. Heinz Hogeweg. PoW, Bf 110 G-2. Hit by Flak on combat mission. Crash-landed behind enemy lines. South-east of Orel.

3./ZG 1, (Third formation)

Updated 3./ZG 1 StaKas - Hptm.Herrmann and Oblt.Hogeweg.

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Hello

I noticed a minor but confusing error:
Falck (Gruppenkommandeur I./ZG 1) was told to become Geschwaderkommodore of the new NJG 1 on 26th June 1940 (when the I./ZG 1 - minus 1./ZG 1 under Oblt. Lutz - was renamed into I./NJG 1).
At this very day the actual Staffelkapitän of the 2./ZG 1 was Oblt. Günther Radusch, not Werner Streib who was leading a Flughafenbetriebskompanie (air servicing squadron) of the I./ZG 1 if I do remember it correctly.
When Falck left, Radusch was promoted to Gruppenkommandeur of this I./NJG 1. Successor of Radusch was the already mentioned Oblt. Werner Streib, therefore Streib was never Staffelkapitän of a Zerstörerstaffel.
The actual change of commands was on the 8th July in Düsseldorf-Lohausen during a military ceremony.

All the best, Marcel Hogenhuis
Study Group Venlo Airfield in WW-2
www.fliegerhorst-venlo.net

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Major Karl Philiip Hammes was born 25. March 1896 in Zell/Mosel. He served in WW I with Feldfliegerabteilung (A)276 and later with Jasta 35. Afterhis fourth Abschuß he was also badly wounded and spent the rest in several Lazarets. After the war he became an famos Opern Tenor and give the Rigoletto in Don Giovanni, Don Juan, Papageno etc. He play in Berlin, Paris, Genf and Kairo. In 1936 he goes to the new Luftwaffe and was one of the oldest Fighterpilots on Service. In March 1939 he became Major and was Staffelkapitän 1./ZG 1 at Jüterbog-Damm.
On 6. September he was shoot down by P.11c NÖ Warschau, he was able to crash his stricken Bf 110 C 2N+IH . He died on his wounds, his Bordfunker Ofw. Steffen became PoW by the Polish Army. After the Polenfeldzug Major Hammes was still MIA. On 29. Oktober 1939 an searchunit from Feldgendarmerieabteilung (mot) 531 found the crashplace and the fieldgrave from Major Hammes. He was burried at the Soldatenfriedhof Warschau-Powazki. This grave gone lost after 1945.

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

THX for info. Updated.

2N+IH was Bf110C-1? It could be seen on one photoe, showing specific rear gunner position. Is Werk.Nr. known?

Does anybody know - was Hptm. August Bier StaKa 2./ZG 1 in late 1942?

Re: List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1.

Oblt. Heinz Forgatsch (RK, 14.06.1941), StaKa 3./Erpr.Gr210>SKG210?

He flew 50 combat missions during BoB, and sunk 1 cargo ship.

Crashed in Rechlin a/f while test flight in Me210.