Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Does anyone have biographical information on Oberst Eduard Neumann (JG26/27) - I cannot find place or date of birth on this gentleman.

with many thanks in advance,

Jess

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Edu Neumann was born on 5 June 1911. He served in Spain with 3.J/88 and Stabsstaffel J/88. he scored 2 victories and was awarded the Spanienkreuz in Gold mit Schwertern.
He served with JG234, JG132, JG26 and JG27, achieving 11 victories, and promoted to Oberst on 1 October 1944.
He died on 9 August 2004, in München.

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Not mentioned, the place of birth was Bukowina.
In Spain he also act as Adjutant of the Stab J/88.

Regards

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Thanks for the information. I'll pass it on to Jess when I see her next.

Much appreciated! - So as Adjutant of Stab J/88, I wonder if he would have come into contact with Oesau, who was also with J/88.

Jess and I are working on a project, you see, and we're needing informations on quite a few of the lesser famous pilots. Thanks so much again to both of you for this information, it is very helpful!

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

It is very possible that he would have come in to contact with Lt.Walter Oesau. According to the book 'Legion Condor' (English edition published by Schiffer) by Ries and Ring, Oesau was with 3.J/88 from April 1938 until November 1938, while Neumann was with 3.J/88 from September 1937 until some time in 1938. And Neumann was with Stab J/88 from at least June 1938 and Oesau became Adjutant on 4 November 1938. So their paths may well have crossed.

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

AFAIK Neumann was Jafü Rumänien from January 1944 to the end of August, then Jafü Oberitalien from September 1944 to January 1945.

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Thanks, Nick, Michael - he certainly was an interesting fellow.

I just bought a nice book, waiting for it to come in the mail.

Luftwaffe Aces: German Combat Pilots of World War II (Stackpole Military History Series) (Paperback)
by Franz Kurowski

Hoping I get it on my three days off so I can get a chance to devour - er... read it.

Any of you guys read this one yet? Opinions?

I was told - rather nicely - that the book on Oberst Wick might be forthcoming, as well as the newer one (to me, at least) on Rudel for my wedding anniversary gifts - I'm going to see if I can sneak in Christer's book on Graf and Grislawski for good measure. :twisted:

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Hello,

I’ve got informations that Edu Neumann was awarded Ritterkreuz, but I don’t trust the sources. From the other side, I’ve got a photo of him made in January 1945 – he had no RK in that time.
Did Edu Neumann receive Ritterkreuz? If so, when was he awarded?

Regards

Nef

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Hello.

One thing very interesting, "Edu" Neumann got his first victory in Spain the 4th sept. 1937. It was the first victory of 3./ J 88 against a Curtiss and the only one victory in He 51 of the unit during the command of "Dolfo" Galland. This latter will keep a very close friend of "Edu" At the same time the 1 & 2 staffel of J/88 were already on Bf 109. During this mission of the 4th Sept.the protection of the He 51 of the 3./ J 88 was given to the 2./ J 88 on Bf 109 with a victory of Reinhard Seiler another close friend to "Edu".

"Gulle" Oesau met "Edu" of course, because, before to take in charge the new Bf 109 for the 3./ J 88 under the command of "Vati" Mölders they made training on He 51 & old Bf 109 6.6, 6.10, 6.7 and it seem's that it was under the proctective look of "Edu". The same protective look he will have for "Jochen" Marseille in Lybia.

Thank you

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

No, he was never awarded the Ritterkreuz. For reference see 'Ritterkreuzträger' by Veit Scherzer or www.das-ritterkreuz.de
He was awarded the Deutsche Kreuz in Gold on 11 May 1942 ('Die träger des Deutschenkreuzes in Gold' agian by Veit Scherzer)

Regards, Mike

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

I don't think Edu ever got the "tin tie" Nef - do you have a scan of that pic? I don't really have many pictures of Edu, and it makes my job all the harder. Doing artwork, that is.

Best regards,

Cori

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

As a personal note, I wrote Neumann twenty years ago, to explain comments he made concerning my uncle, who was under his command in Africa. He was anything but helpful, indeed, he was rude and told me not to bother him, as he was being inundated with requests from collectors.

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Thank You very much for all the informations. Indeed, good relations between Edu and Dolfo are clear visible on photos made in Africa in 1942, when Galland visited JG 27.
Cori – I’ll contact with You by e-mail about posting scans of the most interesting photos of Edu.

Regards

Nef

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Thank you very much, Nef. I think I have my email displayed, if not, please do not hesitate to PM me.

Edu probably was a bit tired of everyone asking him about his most famous pupil - perhaps some irritation at that might be somewhat normal.

It's why I've really hesitated writing to any of the surviving aces - I'm afraid I would get the same response if I were to ask a small question in the same vein.

... and I'm rather sensitive. Perhaps they - the aces - might not want to be reminded of those past days. It might bring up painful memories.

Nice to see you here too, VtwinVince - I think I remember you from the Aerodrome forums!

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Picture with cross signed "Edu" in Africa

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Autogramm-Edu...t/172810843280

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

He signed a number of those-he sent one to me like no doubt many others!

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

its about the cross. Does look like a RK

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

There is nothing around his neck? RK could not be worn like an EK1 & in any case this photo was taken in 1941 & judging by the last post on this ghost thread, nothing has emerged in last 11 years

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Hi Jess

Drop me an e.mail. I have a full biography of Neumann. By memory he was born in Ukraine, and lived to be about ninety-five. I do have his D.O.B and D.O.D.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Johannes-unlikely you will get a mail as this has been dormant for 11 years & Jess has not been active since then!

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Hi Chris

Thanks for that, but I do have a little time now, so for everybody's benefit:-

"Edu" was born in the Ukraine on 5th June 1911, and died on 9th August 2004. Never received the Ritterkreuz, but was awarded the DKiG on 11th May 1942, mostly for his leadership qualities rather than combat history i.e thirteen confirmed claims from 4th September 1937 until 30th November 1941. Is known to have tutored Hans-Joachim Marseille.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Re: Oberst Eduard Neumann
 

Hello Johannes.

I would like to say "Edu" Neumann has never "tutored" Hans-Joachim Marseille.
The only thing he did, and it is more important, is to understand who was H-J Marseille, the man behind the pilot. Edu was like a protector, against some pilots who dislike the manners of Marseille. What it is sûre, Edu has always trusted "Jochen" Even if sometimes it was difficult to accept some behaviors of this outstanding pilot.

By advance thank you.