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Nikita Egorov

2nd August 2023 17:28

Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

Gentlemen,

If there any loss or other info on this plane?

TIA

Mark VIII

13th August 2023 23:49

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

Hello Nikita.
I know the aircraft was built and delivered by Arado in mid-June 1944.
Sincerely
Bryan

Nikita Egorov

14th August 2023 20:45

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

Thank you, Bryan!

According to one Soviet operational report it was shot down on August 18, 1944. Probably with III/SG4. I need confirmation from German side.

Nick Beale

14th August 2023 21:19

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikita Egorov (Post 331723)

Thank you, Bryan!

According to one Soviet operational report it was shot down on August 18, 1944. Probably with III/SG4. I need confirmation from German side.

The Bundesarchiv has the III./SG 4 diaries online. They give Werk Nummern for losses in Normandy but I haven’t looked at the August diaries.

John Manrho

14th August 2023 21:24

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

I could not find that werknummer in the losses.....

Nikita Egorov

14th August 2023 21:54

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

Thanks, Gentlemen!
Will try to check myself.

ZhekaB

14th August 2023 23:33

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

According to III./SG4 docs: 18.08.44 it had 3 losses (all at 13:40-15:50):
- Feldw. Kruger MIA
- Oblt. Hesse in 67145 8 km W Modohn hit by Flak, belly landed (Notlandung), pilot WIA
- Feldw. Schneider 10 km W Laudona 67311 hit by Flak, belly landed (Notlandung), pilot WIA
No WrNr, sorry

Nikita Egorov

15th August 2023 08:06

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

Thank you! Seems that Krueger is the most plausible candidate, since Soviet report says that pilot burnt with the plane.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZhekaB (Post 331729)

Matti Salonen

15th August 2023 09:05

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

Fw Krüger had 931365, E gelbe
Olt Hesse had 931335, H gelbe
Fw Schneider had 931840, F gelbe

931365 is problematic, because same WNr. of 9./SG 4 was also reported lost on 1944-08-28.

Matti

Merlin

15th August 2023 11:53

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

Nikita,

which location or area is given in the " Soviet operational report" ?

Nikita Egorov

15th August 2023 14:03

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

Jauntilani, approx. 7 km west of Laudona, Latvia

Here is the whole document:

https://sj-extended.livejournal.com/6330.html

John Manrho

15th August 2023 16:37

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

That is a match with the area where the 9./SG 4 losses occurred. Very likely Fw. Gerhard Krüger of 9./SG 4.

Nikita Egorov

15th August 2023 19:55

Re: Fw-190F-8 w.n. 581623

Place matches, time matches, also duplication in w.n. for 28.08.1944 and 18.08.1944. Highly likely, 581623 is a correct w.n. for Gerhard Krueger loss.

Thanks to all, who took part in this thread!

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