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knusel 24th September 2024 19:46

Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
Good morning Gentlemen,

I tried to compile the top scorers of all Heinkel aircraft types that scored kills and their scores in these types:
  • He 51: Herwig Knüppel, 6 kills
  • He 111: Günther Bertram, 14 kills
  • He 112: Miguel Entrena Klett, at least 1 kill
  • He 177: Richard Kranz, at least 1 kill
  • He 219: Ernst-Wilhelm Modrow, 33 kills
Did anybody ever score more than one kills with the He 112 ?

Cheers,

Michael

focusfocus 25th September 2024 13:58

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
He-112: Slt Teodor Moscu and Lt Radu Reinek 2 each.

And He-115 ? several "abschusse" were obteneid (ex. 05/09/1939,12/09/1939....)
michel

Chris Goss 25th September 2024 16:33

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
Wouldn't call Kranz of II./KG 40 a top scorer with one kill (confirmed) and no evidence of any more kills. II./KG 40 also claimed fighters on 26 Nov 43 while the last He 177 success could be Hptm Hans-Joachim Stolte of 2./KG 40 of a P-61. Again, I can see no pilot claiming more than one

knusel 25th September 2024 20:45

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
Good evening Michel and Chris,

thanks for your posts.
It's interesting that the Romanian He 112 had some success.
https://plane-encyclopedia.com/ww2/h...anian-service/
I don't know the names of the He 115 scorers.
Hans-Joachim Stolte shot down a P-61 ?
I thought that the Black Widow had no losses in aerial combat at all.
If you tell me the date I'll check the P-61 book by Jeff Kolln.

Best greetings from Switzerland,
Michael

Chris Goss 26th September 2024 15:44

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
14 Aug 44. Engine caught fire, force-landed Maupertus, nose oleo collapsed

knusel 27th September 2024 20:57

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
Good evening Chris,

the chronology part of Jeff Kolln's book has no entry for 14Aug1945.
With this incident it looks as if the P-61 wasn't as invincible as I previously thought.

I wish you a good start into the weekend,

Michael

Chris Goss 27th September 2024 22:42

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
1944 by the way

knusel 28th September 2024 09:18

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
A typo, sorry.
I checked the entries for August 1944.

By the way, have you ever come across the date on which He 111 top scorer Günther Betram died ?

Have a good Saturday,
Michael

Chris Goss 28th September 2024 12:22

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
Theo Boiten would know as he was in contact with him

James A Pratt III 30th September 2024 17:17

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
HE 115 victories
5 Sep 39 Anson 206 Sqn P.O. F.L. Words WIA/POW and 2 KIA M2+FH 1/KuFlGp source FE

13 Sep 42 Sea Hurricane/ 802 HMS Avenger Lt E.W.T. Taylor KIA 1/KuFlGp 706 notes from "Artic Victory The Story of Convoy PQ 18" Peter c Smith

knusel 1st October 2024 09:30

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
Good morning Chris,

I've written a message to Theo Boiten and found an answer to a former question that reveals that the correct spelling of Mr Bertram's given name is Günter (without h).

Good morning James,

that's interesting. Is there a chance to identify the He 115 pilots ?

Have a nice day,

Michael

igorrB 2nd October 2024 04:05

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
5.9.39
Pilot was Uffz. Grabbe, commander was beobachter Ltn.z.S. Battger, radioman Fkmt. Schettler.

igorrB 2nd October 2024 04:07

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
13.9.42 Hurricane was shot down by machine from 1./406, not 706. There is claim in RL 5/1459, but no names given.

FalkeEins 2nd October 2024 09:19

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knusel (Post 340095)
Hans-Joachim Stolte shot down a P-61 ?
I thought that the Black Widow had no losses in aerial combat at all.

not really...the 'incident' was the subject of an article in Jet & Prop magazine (issue 6/97) entitled " Schwarze Witwe contra Greif " (‘Black Widow versus Griffon’) written and compiled by Michael Balss. He refers to the pilot as 'Stolle' which appears to be incorrect then, Chris ?

Michael, I posted this in 2011 ! - I'm a little disappointed that you are apparently not aware of it..:)

https://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2011/...7-griffon.html

knusel 2nd October 2024 16:31

Re: Heinkel aircraft types and their top scorers
 
Good afternoon Igor,

thanks for the He 115 crew.

Good afternoon FalkeEins,

thanks for the article which I didn't know yet, indeed.
The fight is not mentioned in the OSPREY volume about the He 177 written by Robert Forsyth. But the name of the pilot is Hans-Joachim Stolte, isn't it ?
https://www.key.aero/article/heinkel...-over-normandy

Have a nice Wednesday,
Michael


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