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edwest2 31st December 2024 20:45

Korean War photos
 
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Buckeye30 4th January 2025 11:59

Re: Korean War photos
 
Ed... this is an F4U-4B from VF-113 "Stingers" on USS "Philippine Sea" off Korea 1950, with VF-114 on board too. Their tail code was "V"; the white triangle by 314's windscreen is probably 113's insignia, a "beehive and hornet".
VF-113 fuselage numbers 300+ and light blue prop hubs and tail tips, VF-114 cowling numbers 400+ with yellow hubs / tail tips.


Nick

twocee 4th January 2025 13:03

Re: Korean War photos
 
This aircraft was F4U-4B BuNo 62964, which was stricken as a result of the damage incurred. The date was 3 August 1950.

Buckeye30 5th January 2025 11:56

Re: Korean War photos
 
Thanks George. Not sure what "BACRL" means in the loss code for 314; I can only think "Barrier Crash Landing".


Nick

twocee 5th January 2025 13:10

Re: Korean War photos
 
Nick,

The accident did indeed involve a barrier engagement but where does the "loss code" and "BACRL" come from? Is this an official abbreviation?

Buckeye30 5th January 2025 17:44

Re: Korean War photos
 
George this is where it came from, I think this is a reliable reference; the codes for 62964 Aug. 3 1950 say Action Code "BACRL" and Damage Code "A".
Thought you would appreciate a very nice photo of sister Sqn. VF-114 at same time.



Regards
Nick



https://www.aviationarchaeology.com/...N_Type_F4U.asp


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/C...-47_Korea.jpeg

twocee 5th January 2025 18:33

Re: Korean War photos
 
Thanks for confirming that BACRL is just an abbreviation that someone---presumably the owner of the website---made up.

An attractive photo indeed, but the aircraft are F4U-4Bs and so it must be the 1950/1 cruise. Plain F4U-4s were employed in 1951/2.

edwest2 5th January 2025 20:58

Re: Korean War photos
 
Thank you gents.

Buckeye30 8th January 2025 13:06

Re: Korean War photos
 
Hi George. Would you know of a list of F4U/AU tail codes for Korea? I've found quite a few. Many thanks if so.

This is a couple of F4Us I did 26 years ago for Jim Sterling's long-gone "Web-birds" site. He had a part on VMF-312, not sure about the Sea Blue Gloss colour now though.

Regards
Nick
Found a list of carriers and F4U designators, from the NAVAL HISTORICAL CENTER. Cheers.
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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...07575385_o.jpgvmf-312 by Nicholas King, on Flickr

twocee 9th January 2025 18:33

Re: Korean War photos
 
Nick,

Thanks for letting me see those beautiful Corsair profiles.

It seems that VMF312 had two '530' Corsairs at Okinawa. The first, 57530, an F4U-1D, was lost on 6 May 1945, while the second, FG-1D 76530, was received the same month. They were accepted by the Navy in July and December 1944 respectively, so both should have been in Sea Blue Gloss.

Buckeye30 10th January 2025 12:34

Re: Korean War photos
 
May I ask your opinion of the "Checkerboard" markings? Looking at colour photos I'm 95% sure they are white on SBG but the (official) "History of Marine Fighter Attack Sqn.312" from HQ. USMC Washington says black-white on F4Us from 1943. They certainly had them later on FJ/F-8 etc. and also included them in their insignia.
It would have been very time-consuming to fully apply them on cowlings and rudders.
Thanks
Nick

twocee 15th January 2025 22:02

Re: Korean War photos
 
I haven't been able to find much about this marking. It was supposed to consist of black and white checks and the more plentiful Korea-era colour photos seem to confirm this. As for WWII, my guess is that the original F4U-1Ds taken to Okinawa would have had the black/white scheme but whether replacement aircraft also had black squares applied remains uncertain.

Buckeye30 17th January 2025 13:05

Re: Korean War photos
 
Thanks George. Not sure about Okinawa but it would have been much simpler and quicker to use stencils and just spray the white on SBG. I think I've convinced myself that in Korea the checks were white-blue.......



https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Corsair/...g-1952-01.html
They were originally designed by 1/Lt. J.J.E. Holden in WW2 as "white on Navy Blue" and the insignia by M/Sgt. J.R. Wroble, authorised by HQUSMC Washington.
Bill Tuxbury was a VMF-312 pilot in Korea, his son has his white-blue check scarf.
The Corsair in the National Naval Aviation Museum at Pensacola has plane white checks as WR-18 (not sure if still there).
No big deal though. Glossy Sea Blue is so dark it's sometimes hard to tell from black.

Regards
Nick

edwest2 2nd February 2025 22:53

Re: Korean War photos
 
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