Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

I'm looking for the pilots Uffz. Schuller and Ofw. Uhlig which were both flying a Messerschmitt Me110 of II./ZG1 (Destroyerwing 1 or Zerstörergeschwader 1) on May 24th, 1944 and both claimed to shoot down a P38 over Lower Austria.
We have found the crashplace of probably one of those P38 and excavated some parts of that plane. Now, we are trying to get information about the Messerschmitts and P38s and it's pilots. About the P38 I will state in the subforum about Allies.
Most of interest is where the destroyer were based that day. Maybe someone has a picture of the planes or it's pilot or knows a source where I could get such. I'm thankful for any information regarding this case.

Regards from Austria,

Kurtl

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

Hi!

It seems, that Uffz. Schüller has only 1 claim.
24.05.44 Uffz. Schüller 6./ZG 1 P-38  EM 3 at 5.000 m. [Rohr i. Gebirge] 11.40 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.69

Lothar Uhlig was an "Ace" with 8 victoryes:

11.07.43 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Spitfire  S.E. Fl.Pl. Gela: 4.000 m. 16.55 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr. -
22.02.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 B-24  S.E. Pilsen: 7.000 m. [Bohemia] 12.50 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.23
13.04.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 B-24  14 Ost N/JS-9: 5.300 m. [Sarborgard] 13.09 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.32
24.04.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Boston III  34 Ost N/ UL: at 300 m. 09.58 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 29
11.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Boston III  34 Ost/NT-4.6: at 2.000 m. 12.08 Film C. 2032/I VNE: ASM
12.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Boston III  34 Ost N/SG-8: no height 07.26 Film C. 2032/I VNE: ASM
24.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 6./ZG 1 P-38  Bad Voslau: 6.000 m. 11.42 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.6
29.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 6./ZG 1 B-24  DM 8: 6.500 m. [S.E. St. Pölten] 11.06 Film C. 2027/II VNE: ASM

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About photoes of Bf110G-2, II./ZG 1 "Wespe"

Sourse of photoes:

Bf110G-2 with crew, 4./ZG 1
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW/Me110-G2-47s.jpg

Bf110G-2, 5./ZG 1
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW/Me110-G2-24s.jpg

6./ZG 1 in flight
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW4/Me110-G2-62.jpg

III./ZG 76 ?
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW/Me110-G2-46.jpg
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW4/Me110-G2-60.jpg
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW4/Me110-G2-61.jpg

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

Dear Eugen, wouldn't it be nice to give the source when quoting? :)

kind regards,
Pawel

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

Eugen :

you second pic shows a G-2 from ZG 76

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

Oh... Sorry...

Corrected...

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

further notes :

top pic is a ZG 26 machine along with your two links, ZG 26 Bf 110G-2's, note the similiar styles of spinner markings and thin white fuselage band with the first photo . . .

E ~

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

Hello,
Thanks for your response! What does "11.40 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.69" mean? Does there a movie from the gun-camera exists? From where you got that information?

Thanks, Kurtl

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

11.40 is the time of the claimed victory

"Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.69" means that this victory is the 69th listed in the microfilm C. 2027/II in the German archives.

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Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

basically, it would be Staffel's 69th victory

regards,
Pawel

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

Any idea about the fate of Uffz. Schuller of 6./ZG 1 and Ofw. Uhlig 6./ZG 1? Best Regards! Kurtl

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

Ofw Lothar Uhlig was killed on Aug 25, 1944 in 11./JG 76 Bf 109G-6, 413676, 8 gelbe, nordöstlich Paris, Luftkampf. Bruch 100 %.

Regards,

Matti

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 

Hi all,

I'm particularly interested in Uffz. Uhlig's Spitfire kill on 11 July 43. It looks like his victim more than likely was 2Lt. August Goldenberg of the 31st FG. Goldenberg was on a patrol over Gela in Spitfire Vc ES340 when his engine started overheating. He turned for Malta alone and never made it. The timing and location of Uffz. Uhlig's kill coincide perfectly with the mission report where he was lost. It had long been suspected that he was brought down by friendly fire from the US Navy over the beachhead, but my hunch is, he was shot down by Uhlig's Me110.

As a result, I'm wondering what kind of information the report on this microfilm would have?

Thanks very much!

Jon

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Possibly the P-38s were from the 14th FG. Lts Quentin Teige and John Penning both failed to return and were last seen in combat with EA. The short description of the combat was "[T[he group ran into many enemy A/C,mostly twin engine types."

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Has Les Butler's site been moved or shut down? Link doesn't work for me.