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35mm film with Me 109s
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250063316467 Me 109 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250068745904 Misc. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280065929028 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250068745847 JUMO 211 handbook http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250014629231 Usual disclaimer, Ed |
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http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=220067117319 Looks like a Caudron 445. Seemingly used by ZG 1 alt SKG 10 Any more info? |
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SKZ looks like SK+XA, in this case it is a Caudron C-445 c/n 450/9178.
Another C-445 was known used by III/ZG 1 : c/n 470/9206 SK+XU. Best wishes to all the community for 2007 ! Von Alles |
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Yes, looks like it can be SK+XA. Thanks for the info 'von Alles' !
Happy 2007 all! |
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I don't think I've said this before, but thank you, Ed, for posting these links. Even if I can never purchase these photos, I can use them as photo references for my own artwork. Even if the sellers scribble all over them to prevent swiping and printing them. ;)
Best Regards, Cori |
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Any info on this one? Looks like an mg in the tail?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280065929028 |
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You're welcome. I enjoy looking for them. Ed |
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A nice photo of a tropical scheme with green patches, not so common. Any idea of the unit ? Note the swastika seems to have been obliterated on the plane not on the picture by the seller. Friendly Von Alles |
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I wonder, Von Alles, if it has something to do with Sonderkommando Blaich?
Cheers Stig |
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Hi,
what is also interesting is that a very similarly-painted aircraft 'VG+ES' werk n. 4085 is shown on page 31 of 'He 111 In Action', said to be used by FM Rommel as a personal transport. It looks as if the same painter had a go at both these airframes. Cheers GrahamB |
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In reference to photograph: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280065455114Anyone know the identity of this pilot, or what unit the aircraft belonged to?I've seen this photograph published somewhere before, but i can't remember where.Thanks,Kenneth Miner |
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Regards, Chris |
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Hi Kenneth,
the photo of the downed Bf 109 G-14 appears (at least) in 'Monogram Close-Up No.7 Gustav, Messerschmitt 109G Part 2', page 26. The caption for the two photos does not identify the pilot, aircraft, unit or date but gives the location as 'near Halstroff', and the cause 'brought down...by anti-aircraft fire'. A 0.5 cal hit to the magneto is pointed out by a Major G. Wiess of Ames, Iowa. The aircraft was one of twelve attacking American positions and was one of no less than nine shot down, by 90th Division Artillery. No doubt someone else can fill in the details with this information as a basis? Cheers GrahamB |
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Have a good day Von Alles |
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Regarding the downed Bf 109 G-14 referred to above:
I checked in "Bodenplatte The Luftwaffe's Last Hope" by J.Manrho and R. Pütz, Hikoki Publ., 2004. And found the information below. It is the well published G-14, WNr. 462892, 'Blue 2' of 16./JG 53, flown by Gefr. Alfred Michel. Shot down on 1 Jan 1945 near Waldweistroff, South West of Merzig. It is not easy, but still possible, to discern the number '2' painted over the patch just forward of the fuselage cross. Claimed by 'D' Battery of the 455th AAA Bn (M). This battery claimed no less than 10 downed aircraft in this engagement. Five crashed aircraft to have been found afterwards and investigated, but none possible to identify today. Among those believed to have been claimed by 455th AAA are also; Fhr Siegfried Leese 14./JG 53, MIA. FJ.FW. Werner Jaschek, 15./JG 53, MIA. Flying 'Yellow 2' Fhr. Wolfgang Rosenberger, 15./JG 53, MIA. Flying 'Yellow 12' More pictures of this G-14 and info on this event on page 237-238 in the book, which I can highly recommend as a good read on the Bodenplatte operation. |
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on the He 111 there appears to be no codes and the rudder looks like a replacement.
http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eplanepix/u9X.jpg |
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Are you sure that this is a MG 17 and no flamethrower
under the tail? I'm no expert and I only know that KG 51 tested He 111 and Ju 88 with flamethrowers in Russia against enemy fighters. |
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I believe that the flame thrower was a far different mounting, longer.
That looks like an MG 17 under the rudder in an H-6 late style tail cone. What is intersting is that there appears to be another one to the right and lower. The location of the aircraft appears to be North Africa. |
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A close up photo of the flame thrower on the Ju-88 A-4 appears in the German edition of Secret Projects of the Luftwaffe, volume III, on page 268 (designated GERO FmW-51). The same unit is shown being tested on an He-111 H-16 in the air, but it is impossible to see it.
On the Ju-88, it consists of two pipes that are side by side, perhaps on the He-111 they were placed one above the other? Who has a photo of the MG in the tail cone of an He-111? Ed |
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Hi Ed,
there is a picture on page 42 of 'He 111 in Action' and two on page 167 of Nowarra's 'He 111 - a documentary history'. The e-bay photo does not look quite right for this mg set-up, the upper 'barrel' seemingly to low and close to the tail and without a distinct dorsal shroud. Not ruled out completely though. Does a glider-tug attatchment point have any relevence? Cheers GrahamB |
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Saw a picture of a He 111H-6 from KG 27 on the Eastern Front showing a similar arrangement in the tail. Picture is not taken from as short distance as the one posted, but shows two "gun barrels" similar in dimensions and position.
Ref. "Luftwaffe at War 15, German Bombers Over Russia", Page 40, Manfred Griehl. |
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There is also a picture (not very clear) of a similar "two gun tail" on He-111 H-4 of KG 28 coded 1T+HK. The pic is in Kampfflieger Vol 3 from Classic publications. Note that the profile for this aircraft obly shows a lower mg.
Look at the pic, IMHO, there seems to be an upper gun as well. |
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Hi 'Modeldad',
I had overlooked two photos in Michael Ullmann's 'Luftwaffe Colors' that might get you close to the solution re 'two-gun tailed' He 111s. On page 107 there is an excellent close-up of the tail cone of an He 111 H-5, Wnr 3924, shot down near Maidstone (Kent - my birth county). Although the MG is missing, perhaps not fitted, the characteristic shroud is still fixed, with two small intakes forward. BUT, the really interesting feature is a metal bar fixed below, and protruding beyond the tail cone. It is definitely not on the ground or part of the wreckage. Supplementing this, is the photo underneath, in which another He 111 (H-6 4020), has a tail gun and, if one looks carefully, a metal bar protruding beneath the cone. I suspect that these features may be for ground-handling - ie. something for groundcrew to grip on properly while moving the aircraft. On the He 111 one could not get close to the rearmost body of the aircraft because of the configuration of the elevators and rudder. Food for thought? Cheers Graham. |
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Good find. Most interesting.
Now to look for other similar arrangements. Amazing how one becaome aware of something when it is mentioned. |
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