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edwest 14th February 2007 01:21

Photos 2-13
 
Me 109
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Usual disclaimer,
Ed

kaki3152 14th February 2007 01:40

Re: Photos 2-13--Spitfire serial number?
 
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Can anyone identify the serial number of this Spitfire I?

Revi16 14th February 2007 05:50

Re: Photos 2-13--Spitfire serial number?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaki3152 (Post 37610)
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Can anyone identify the serial number of this Spitfire I?

Looks more like a Blenheim.

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Spitfire production,

http://www.angelfire.com/sd2/spitfir...production.htm

Regards,
Mike

Parabellum 14th February 2007 18:44

Re: Photos 2-13
 
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Two planes with norwegian markings on the wings (red background with white-blue-white bands on it). Second one seems made in Italy... but of which type?

Pawel Burchard 14th February 2007 18:55

Re: Photos 2-13
 
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seems to be He 111 of K.Gr.z.b.V. 5, L5+BB

Pawel

Pawel Burchard 14th February 2007 18:58

Re: Photos 2-13
 
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and another one, what a coincidence :)

Stig Jarlevik 14th February 2007 19:23

Re: Photos 2-13
 
Parabellum

First shot is probably a scrap heap somewhere in Norway and the airplane in the background must be a Fokker C.V. Is the Bf 109E from II./JG 77?

The second one show a Caproni 310, one of four, bought by Norway in 1938. Serialled 501,503,505 and 507 it has to be one of them....

Cheers
Stig

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Re: Photos 2-13
 
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Milan

John Beaman 14th February 2007 21:12

Re: Photos 2-13
 
You know, Ed W and Ruy have furnished us a great place to view these photos, regardless of the "auction moral" issues, so be happy.:)

What amazes me is the continual gross ignorance of most of the sellers. The Marseille rudder is just one example. Another is

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It is not Graf, of course, but a well-known (and copied) photo of Werner Molders. Too bad none of the knowledgable people on this board ever run across nice photo caches and properly ID them!!

Parabellum 14th February 2007 21:44

Re: Photos 2-13
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik (Post 37678)
Parabellum

First shot is probably a scrap heap somewhere in Norway and the airplane in the background must be a Fokker C.V. Is the Bf 109E from II./JG 77?

The second one show a Caproni 310, one of four, bought by Norway in 1938. Serialled 501,503,505 and 507 it has to be one of them....

Cheers
Stig

Tks for answer Stig! :)
So, twas a Caproni 310... I did'nt know that Norway had purchased such type of airplane. And Fokker built for the first one... interesting!
The Me109 is from JG77 and we can discern the black "death riding a scythe with an umbrella" 4th staffel's insignia under the cockpit.

atckyrre 14th February 2007 22:37

Re: Photos 2-13
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Parabellum (Post 37696)
Tks for answer Stig! :)
So, twas a Caproni 310... I did'nt know that Norway had purchased such type of airplane. And Fokker built for the first one... interesting!
The Me109 is from JG77 and we can discern the black "death riding a scythe with an umbrella" 4th staffel's insignia under the cockpit.

We did indeed buy a few of these Capronis. They were called "Klippfiskbombere" - or a loose translation "Bacalao-bombers" because they were purchased partly with shipments of dried cod. They were not operational as the Germans attacked.
Of note is that it appears the Caproni was pictured at some airshow looking at the planes in the background while something with the picture of the wrecked planes says "Sola/Stavanger" though it is just a hunch and could very well be wrong.

Stig Jarlevik 15th February 2007 21:39

Re: Photos 2-13
 
Kyrre and especially Italian readers

Sorry for straying, but being very much in favour of the Italian Cuisine, may I ask what Italy did with all the dried fish? The dish made out of that (at least in Sweden) has been tried on friends from abroad, and their general feeling of disgust was quite passionate:D

Not 100% sure how our Norwegian brothers cook their dried fish, but I have never come across any Italian dishes made out of dried Cod!!!

Any takers?? I am really curious:)

Cheers
Stig (Great lover of the Swedish dish made from dried fish!!!!!!)

cotojetohle 15th February 2007 21:59

Re: Photos 2-13
 
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atckyrre 15th February 2007 22:25

Re: Photos 2-13
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik (Post 37769)
Kyrre and especially Italian readers

Sorry for straying, but being very much in favour of the Italian Cuisine, may I ask what Italy did with all the dried fish? The dish made out of that (at least in Sweden) has been tried on friends from abroad, and their general feeling of disgust was quite passionate:D

Not 100% sure how our Norwegian brothers cook their dried fish, but I have never come across any Italian dishes made out of dried Cod!!!

Any takers?? I am really curious:)

Cheers
Stig (Great lover of the Swedish dish made from dried fish!!!!!!)

Would that be "Lutefisk" or "Lye-fish" literally translated?

Well I'm not sure about the italians but a typical "mediterranean" dish would be the Bacalao. Portuguese/Spanish I believe? I know that as a woman you ain't ready to marry until you know at least 365 ways to prepare your dried cod if you're from countries like Portugal and Brasil.

Not that I'm particularly fond of dried fish. Used to feed it to the dog. :D

Gianandrea Bussi 15th February 2007 23:36

Re: Photos 2-13
 
Stig,
My mother used to cook dried salted cod (Baccalà or simply "merluzzo sotto sale") "stewed" (is it correct?) with tomato sauce and sometime with olives and capers.
Quite good, even though it wasn't my favourite dish....

ciao

Gianandrea

veltro 16th February 2007 08:08

Re: Photos 2-13
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gianandrea Bussi (Post 37782)
My mother used to cook dried salted cod (Baccalà or simply "merluzzo sotto sale")...

It goes without saying that the cod is rinsed in fresh, running water for several hours before being ready to be cooked... :D

Sorry for the off-topic note...

Stig Jarlevik 17th February 2007 01:17

Re: Photos 2-13
 
Sorry Ray, but I just have to finnish this off....:)

So we DO have some culinary chefs among our Italian friends. However I must say that feeding the stuff to your dog gives you no ++ in the kitchen Kyrre... :D

It is quite correct that the dish made is called "lutfisk" in Swedish, and you have to put the dried fish in water with soda in it. This gives the fish a rather swollen, slimy consistency, which I guess is rather repelling for those who have not seen the light!!! Eaten with white sause and lots of mustard it really is a delicacy and if anyone ever pass by Gothenburg, be my guest! Just drop me a line... I do, however, make a wonderful pasta as well:)

To get a bit more in line, I somehow cannot see Count Caproni stand on the marketsquare chopping up dried cod and sell it to the people, so how did such a trade in those days work? Did the Italian Government step in as a go-between here, or did Caproni have to find a buyer himself of the stuff??

Cheers
Stig


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