He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

In addition to Wk Nr 2145, I have a photo of Wk Nr 2149 of 3/KG 55 taken early 1940; any iedas of its eventual fate?

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

Hi Chris,

2149 He111 P2 G1+JA GeschStab/KG55 failed to return from Ostfront sortie on 11 July 1941. Lt Karl Doppelhammer (pilot), Fw Fritz Breuig (observer), Fw Herbert Schultze (W/T operator), Gef Max Wied (engineer) and Gef Anton Munster (gunner) all missing.

Hope this helps!

Regards,

David

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David, just out of curiosity, do you have the fate of W.Nr 2145 that Chris mentions? I have W.Nr 2146 , 2150.

And Chris, did W.Nr 2145 serve with 3/KG55 with sister a/c 2149? any dates or squadron codes, aircrew attributed?

Best Regs,
Steve.

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

Steve: I cannot confirm one way or another as you cannot see the codes. All I have are 2 photos from a 3/KG 55 crewman showing the Wk Nrs and the silhouette of a chap in a top hat and carrying an umbrella on the rudder (slightly different on both)

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

...and re 2145, see my earlier thread

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

Hi Chris,
Thanks for that, so W.Nr 2145 may have been attached to 3/KG55 at some time early 1940.
Id be interested to learn its fate?

Best Regs,
Steve.

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

Damaged with 7/KG 55 22 Jun 41 and then 70% in an accident 25 Nov 42 with FFS C13 Brunau. Both were P-2/P-5

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

Chris, Many thx for the clarification.

Best Regs,
Steve.

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

Hi,

Regarding 2145.........
G1+CL with 3./KG55 crashed Belgium 27 May 1940, repaired and later with III/KG55 suffered 40% damage due to enemy fire at Slipcze on 23 June 1941.

WNrs 2121 to 2151 were a batch apparently allocated to KG55 as a block.

Any corrections or amendments always welcome!

Regards

David

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

Interesting what you say about 27 May 40. I have a photo of G1+CL and the BF involved on 27 May 40 is a friend of mine. True it did crash-land 20 kms west of Ypres at 1145 hrs but according to the BF, the aircraft was pretty well alight when it crash-landed (4 of the crew were burned in the process). Where did you get the info that 2145 was CL and that it was repaired?

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Hi Chris and David,
Just checked through my files for a G1+CL and low and behold, one for 27.5.40 ! although i had no W.Nr assigned to the loss. This was
piloted by Fw Heinrich Schmidt and abstz. Belgium.

David, thank you also for your information, do you have any indication as to when KG55 were allocated W.Nr's 2121 - 2151 ?

Best Regs,
Steve.

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

Hi Chris,

Crew I have listed as :-

Fw Heinrich Schmidt (pilot), Oberfw Erich Botzki (observer), Uffz Fritz Wicklein (flight engineer), Gefr Walter Schwinn (gunner), & Uffz Hans Kaufhold (radio operator)

Details came from a combination of loss lists, unit report and an intelligence report. Unfortunately I'm not in a position to double check at present but if you have any contra evidence it will be gratefully accepted. I would note it and double check my sources asap.

Kind regards,

David

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Hi David,
did you see my previous post.
Do you have any information as to when W.Nr 2121 - 2151 were allocated to KG55, would they have been delivered as a batch all together, or would this allocation be spread out over a period of time.
Looking at my record of KG55 losses, KG55 continued to lose a/c within this batch from 1940 into 1941.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Best Regs,
Steve.

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

Hi Steve,

I believe that this batch was part of the latter half year production for 1939, probably the August - October part, and that it was allocated en bloc so they would have hit unit service at approx the same time, after fitting out with equipment.

As usual, if anyone has any further info, it would be welcome!

Regards

David

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

Hi David,
Many thanks for taking the time to reply, im very grateful.
So it would appear that this batch of Heinkels were likely to have been allocated en-bloc, in the latter part of 1939.

What is apparent when looking at these a/c, are the constant inter changing of units, obviously down to attrition, lack of spares, lack of replacement aircraft etc. The a/c Chris mentioned started off with 3/KG55, and moved to the Stab and III/KG55 respectively. When W.Nr 2145 was damaged in 6.41 it would have been operational for 2 years, a long time for a combat aircraft!

Best Regs,
Steve.

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

I know that this is an old post but Peter Cornwell & myself think we have identified a photo of G1+CL on 27 May 40-all that remains is the tail and engines so it could not have been Wk Nr 2149 or 2145 as repair would have been impossible!

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But where come from the date for that loss ???? In usual loss-lists it doesn't appear ...


Rémi

Re: He 111 Wk Nr 2149
 

The date was confirmed by Hans Kaufhold!