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Pilot

20th February 2007 15:17

Bf109 sliding canopy

Any info about this image...

http://www.airwarfareforum.com/upld/...7-P7jv8mYg.jpg

Cheers

Griffon

20th February 2007 16:16

Re: Bf109 sliding canopy

edit: I have just seen the question has been answered at the other forum already :)

Pilot

20th February 2007 17:18

Re: Bf109 sliding canopy

Yes but who know-each forum have different kind of members and more answer can get :) :)

George Hopp

20th February 2007 20:01

Re: Bf109 sliding canopy

As a quicky WAG I would opine that it is a Czech trainer, postwar.

Pilot

20th February 2007 20:28

Re: Bf109 sliding canopy

Or Spain built sample...

George Hopp

21st February 2007 07:59

Re: Bf109 sliding canopy

Well, the Czech 109s (Avia S.199) had a sliding canopy on the single-seat version, so by extension, I assumed the pictured a/c would simply have had the canopy extended and a 2nd seat added. BUT, the windscreen portion of the canopy is definitely not of the normal109 shape. And, the nose portion has the faired-in engine cowling of the Hispano HA-1112. So, is it a post-war reconstruction using portions of both a/c types? I frankly don't know.

Revi16

21st February 2007 10:06

Re: Bf109 sliding canopy

How about the HA 1110-K1L or HA 1112M4L?
http://www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid...H109_esp_3.php

http://www.messerschmitt109.com/espagne/p8_1.html

The pics I have of the Czech built two seat CS-199's shows a 2 piece sliding canopy like an AT-6 Texan, one piece slides aft, the other slides forward.

Regards,
Mike

Pilot

21st February 2007 10:23

Re: Bf109 sliding canopy

Thank you George and Revi for your installment :)

George Hopp

21st February 2007 17:53

Re: Bf109 sliding canopy

Mike, I bow to your superior photos. Yes, the photo in question certainly does appear to be the HA-1112M.4L. Especially notice the windshield unit which is definitely not from the 109. In fact, it looks more like one from an Ar 96.

olefebvre

21st February 2007 19:31

Re: Bf109 sliding canopy

It's indeed the HA-1112M4L before the engine swap for a Merlin, in that picture it's still using the Hispano. The picture was taken at Tablada in 1952.
The 199 is "of course" the c/n ;)

Olivier

George Hopp

22nd February 2007 01:10

Re: Bf109 sliding canopy

Thank you for that comment, Olivier. It's great hearing from you!
All the very best,
George

Pilot

22nd February 2007 07:01

Re: Bf109 sliding canopy

Thank you for that comment, Olivie :)

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