German aircraft at Eelde airfield
 

Hello,

In the Summer of 1945 some derelict German aircraft remained at the Eelde airfiled (in the northern part of Holland). Some details have recently emerged to my, identifying two of the aircraft.

FW.190 W/Nr 210037
FW.189 coded 'GH+GA'

If anybody could add some details on this aircraft, I would very much appreciate this.

Kind regrads,
Hendrik

Re: German aircraft at Eelde airfield
 

Hi.

The FW 190 was obviously a D-9 subtype.

Regards,
Andreas

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Hello Henrik, this is very interesting. Until now WNr. 210037, indeed a D-9, was never identified before. It could be a III./JG 54 a/c as most D-9's in that Werknummer block went to that unit. RAF CEA Report No. 269 of 12.5.1945 lists two Fw 189 and one Fw 190 found at Eelde. Unfortunately it does not list werknummers or kennzeichen. Can you let us know where you found the WNr. of this Fw 190? Cheers,
John.

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Hello Hendrik,
Interesting data you have! In "sporen aan de hemel"deel 3 by Ab.A.Jansen, page 352 there is a picture of a Fw189 at Eelden. One of the two John mentioned and so a fifty percent chance of beeing GH+GA. Like john I would like to ask where you got this information from.

Groeten,
Dennis

Re: German aircraft at Eelde airfield
 

FW 190D-9 W.Nr. 210037 with Stammkennzeichen TS+DK came from a series of such aircraft produced by Focke-Wulf Sorau (ncc) from September 1944. Most other FW 190D-9s around this W.Nr. went to either II. or III./J.G.54.

Regards

Bjorn

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The info comes from photographs that I saw last week. There is no doubt on the W/Nr of the FW.190. The tail of this aircraft is shown in great detail on a picture that shows a Canadian soldier posing at the tail. A souvenir hunter obviously tried to cut the swastika marking from the tail but has failed in his attempt. The FW.189 that can be seen on another picture is without its tailbooms. The letter G can be seen onder the starboard wingtip. A seperate picture shows a tailboom marked (most probably) GH+GA. The first letter is very hard to read but could be a G.

Kind regards,
Hendrik

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Picture????? I want to see it!!! Just joking, but I would love to see a scan of this one. If it is possible please e-mail me at jmanrho@wxs.nl

Cheers,

John.

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I, too, would love to see this photo! Perhaps you can post it here?

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FW.190D-9 W/Nr. 210037 Eelde airfield Summer 1945

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FW.189 Eelde airfield Summer 1945

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Nice pictures!!

The Fw189 in Jansens book it still intact, perhaps that is the other one.

thank you for sharing them,

Dennis

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A very old thread, but an appropriate spot for the following question: Is this photo of Fw 190 D-9 210037 already known? : http://www.thememoryproject.com/stor...en-richardson/

This aircraft, which had belonged to III./JG 54 at least in November 1944, was rather extensively covered in JaPo's "Fw 190D camouflage & markings Part I" - its tactical marking "11" was said to have been red and in the photos known at that time no fuselage band was recognizable. However, in the photo posted above you can clearly see a fuselage band (I still don't have Crandall's books, so forgive me if this is old news). Of which color might it have been? Perhaps (washed-out) blue of JG 54? AFAIK this wasn't documented on a D-9 so far - What do you guys think?

Regards,
Christian

EDIT: Can someone please repost the Fw 189 photos from earlier in this thread? Thanks!

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Nice find Christian! I don't think either JaPo or Crandall mentions this, so I think this info is new!

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I checked both JaPo’s and Jerry Crandall’s books yesterday and they don’t have this photo. I think it was Crandall who has another photo with this D-9 in the distance standing on the nose but so blurred so the fuselage band isn’t easily seen.

But what color is this band? Light blue? Yellow? I’m not sure.

Could the red of the nr 11 have nearly the same shade as the blue (?) band? And did III. /JG 54 use a light blue band on their A-8's?

I guess that this plane could have been repaired after use by III. /JG 54 and gone to another unit later.

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Hi Micke,
thanks for checking! My thoughts on the unit? Given the (Dutch) location and the documentary evidence (210037 had definitely belonged to III./JG at the end of 1944) I think it's rather unlikely that this plane had been transferred to a different Geschwader while it was still in service.

- JG 26, the only other D-9 unit in this area, used a black/white fuselage band and did so rather consistently, so this possibility can be discarded.

- The fuselage band on 210037 is mono-colored - this would leave JGs 1, 3, 11, 27, 53 and (early) 300, but none of them either used the Fw 190 D-9 or was operating over northwestern Germany and the Netherlands during the last months of the war. It's also unlikely that a defector or homebound pilot flew 210037 to Eelde around VE-day, as this airfield was captured in April 1945 and the wreck was already present.

- Of course it could be just a simple yellow recognition band but when applied to fighters, they were usually much narrower.

So yes, I think 210037 featured a blue fuselage band, which was just very bleached out when our photo was taken. At least that's my opinion...

Regards,
Christian