Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Dear members,

In May 1941 a JU52 ( G6*CC) was shot down by MG-fire south of Heraklion. (Crew KIA).

Maybe someone knows what day between 20.05.41 and 01.06.1941 it crashed and which unit did it belong to ??

Warmest regards,
Jagdkommando

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Jagdkommando...

The 'G6' code was used by several units. According to Barry Rosch's Luftwaffe Codes, Markings & Units 1939-45, KGrzbV102 had Gruppenstab letter of 'C', with staffel letters of N,P,R and S. So, perhaps G6+CC was from that unit. It later changed its designation to III.Gruppe/TG3 in May 1943.

Regards

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Hi Jagdkommando

According to my notes, I have reference to G6+KL being lost on 20 May 1941 and note that its unit was shown as KGrzbV.101. Sorry, no mention of G6+CC in my notes.

Hope this helps.
Cheers
Brian

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Please refer to http://www.wiki.luftwaffedata.co.uk/wiki/index.php/G6 it may help a little.

Also on page 25 of "FlugZeug Foto-Archiv Band 3" there is a phot of G6+KQ (WerkNr 7227) reputedly from 4./KGrzbV 105. While page 42 holds a photo of G6+IK also of KGrzbV 105.

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

In my notes I also found G6+KL being lost on 20 May 1941,but not G6+CC.
I'm asking because I have 2 or 3 original photos of it,laying up-side down in the mountains.
Hmmmm.......
Thanks anyway guys :-)

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Hi,

I think that this bird crashed in Dezember 1941.
I have two photos of it with caption: "The rescue operation of the JU52 G6+CC in the mountains of xxxxx 04.12.1941." The plane has thin yellow band around the fuselage.

Regards

Robert

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Hi Robert,

Do you have originale photos of it ??

Regards,
Jagdkommando

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

No,

I have copies from Internet but the quality is OK.

Robert

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

The copies u have are from my previous website. I have as mentioned before the originales.
Some years ago we found out what mountain it crashed on,and this year we will pherhaps travel there.
Last summer during our vacation on Crete I almost had the opportunity to meet the cretan resistancefighter who shot down the plane single-handed.
Today he lives in USA,but he come back to Crete on vacation every summer. Hopefully we will meet him this summer.

I'm really eager to find out more about the crew on this plane and when it crashed.

The photos u have copied shows the rescue group in dec.1941, but the plane had laid there since May 1941.

So it belonged to KGrzbV 105 ??

Jagdkommando

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

With reference to G6+KL, Shores et al on page 351 of "Airwar for Yugoslavia, Greece and Crete" records the following about the assault on Heraklion at 1800 on 20/05/41:-

"The big tri-motors crashed, or glided down to force-land all round the area, 15 burnt-out wrecks subsequently being found in the immediate Heraklion sector alone, while others fell in the sea KGrzbV 101 bore the brunt of the losses, at least eight of this unit's aircraft being shot down including G6+KL (Oblt Hans Rehrmann), G6+GK (Ofw Heinz Otto) and G6+EK (Uffz Helmut Bierwendt)."

And Rosch lists G6+CC under KGrzbV 102 on page 31 - no mention of sources however...

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Hi Andy,

Thanks for your help!
Today I found out that the G6+CC was shot down on 22.05.1941.
What does KGrzbV stands for ??

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Warmest regards,

Jagdkommando

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

It stands for "Kampfgruppe zur besonderen Verwendung" u clown !! :D :D

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

I am holding in my hands the recent copy of a greek aviation magazine in which a guy from Crete Mr.Stelios Tripalitakis show some relics he have found from the Ju-52 G6+CC. He found the exact position from the mountains in the backround.You can buy this magazine from the site www.periscopio.gr AEROPORIKI ISTORIA ( AVIATION HISTORY) ISSUE No51 February-March 2008.

Regards Tasos

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Hello Tasos,

I'm glad to hear from you regarding the relics that were found in the Mt.Psiloritis. I have in fact 2 original photos of the plane beeing recovered late 1941 by german technicians.
I would be very interested in the magazine, but the link u sent be is of course in Greek. I can of course also ask some of my friends on Crete to buy this magazine.
Or could you send me some scans from the article ??

Regards,
Jagdkommando

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

According to my notes a Ju 52/3mg5e W.Nr. 7332 (St.kz. BV+OG) was lost in the mountains on Crete on 04.12.1941. It had unit code G6+CC and belonged to K.Gr.z.b.V. 102.

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Here are the scans of the magazine. Enjoy ....... and try to translate!!!!

Regards Tasos

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Nice pics but I can tell you one thing :
The greek guy has used my original photos from my earlier website. If u know him u can tell him from me, that he has removed the "copyright" on the pics. They all belong to me. I have the hole photalbum from this unit on Crete from 1941-42.

Jagdkommando

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Hello Jagdkommando,
who were the crewmembers of that plain, did they survived the crash?

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

hi. were all the ju52's used in crete from KGzbV 172 ? i have these photos but they are the only markings to be seen. they flew into Rethymnon carrying Fallsch. Art Abt.7 as a part of III Flieger- Division. under Major Bode. im trying to find out more on the pilots that flew these and what happened to the ju52s during the battle of crete, this photo was taken on the 20th of may 1941 thanks mike

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2444/ju52s.png

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

The pic in the greek magazine is indicating seaplanes is right with december 1941. There are no yellow balkan/crete campaign markings (tail rudders, engine cowlings etc.) visible, but insteed a yellow theatre band. These were introduced with barbarossa in june 1941.
KGrzbV102 served on the eastern front right from the beginn of barbarossa
and then was sent to Italy in late december 1941 for a short period only - before returning to the eastern front again.

ATB
Armin

Re: Crashed JU52 "G6*CC" in May 1941 over Crete.
 

Hello
his this the one thats been hit and on fire with some parachutes ?
sharon