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Rolfeb 14th July 2019 19:59

Pilot Alfred Briefs, searching for details
 
Hi All,
It is believed that Alfred Briefs served in 2./NAG 13 and KIA in March 45.
Searching for all details about Briefs.
Sent a request for information to WASt about 10 month ago but no response so far.
Thanks in advance
Rolf

Alain57 15th July 2019 08:11

Re: Pilot Alfred Briefs, searching for details
 
Hello ,

Briefs was killed in the crash of Bf 109 G-8/R5 werknumber 201389

Greets
Alain57

Matti Salonen 15th July 2019 08:37

Re: Pilot Alfred Briefs, searching for details
 
I have:
1945-03-20, 2./NAGr. 13, Bf 109 G-8/R5, 201389, 2,5 km südlich St. Vöhrenbach
Flugzeugführer Fhj-Uffz Briefs, Alfred, vermißt
Absturz infolge Jägerbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.

Matti

Rolfeb 15th July 2019 09:22

Re: Pilot Alfred Briefs, searching for details
 
Hi Matti, Alain57,
thanks a lot for your info.
It seems Briefs is still officially listed as MIA.
Thanks a lot
Rolf

Rolfeb 9th March 2023 12:57

Re: Pilot Alfred Briefs, searching for details
 
Hi All,
during my reseach the last years I do have much more details and happy to share it.
Briefs flew in 2./NAGr 13 and at March 18th 1945 he was shot down by most probably american Fighter pilots and KIA. He was buried in Bad Dürrheim then.
Unfortunately I don't know which allied fighter unit was involved but eye withnesses told me the following:
"3 enemy fighter were chasing the German pilot. The german pilot was already very deep. almost over the roofs of the village. They heard and saw gun fire and hit the German fighter. In the same moment the German fighter pilot was pulling up and tried to bail out but failed. The plne crashed into a forest, pilot was killed.
Unfortunately I don't have any claim from american pilots that day and hope somebody can help me.
Thanks a lot in advance

Rolf

Adriano Baumgartner 9th March 2023 13:10

Re: Pilot Alfred Briefs, searching for details
 
Rolf check here (a start):
https://www.afhra.af.mil/Portals/16/...090601-121.pdf
Pg. 309
Now you need to check each claim, individually.

A.

Adriano Baumgartner 9th March 2023 13:11

Re: Pilot Alfred Briefs, searching for details
 
SORRY....need my glasses...I put you on the 20th March 1943 (zut alors!)

CORRECT page is 510

A few claims...so you must be able to pin-point with further researches

Adriano

Rolfeb 9th March 2023 18:59

Re: Pilot Alfred Briefs, searching for details
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriano Baumgartner (Post 327546)
SORRY....need my glasses...I put you on the 20th March 1943 (zut alors!)

CORRECT page is 510

A few claims...so you must be able to pin-point with further researches

Adriano

Thank you Adriano
Rolf

Trendle 9th March 2023 20:17

Re: Pilot Alfred Briefs, searching for details
 
Hi Rolf,

long Time no see!! I have Briefs at March 19th. According to my Information Briefs was not found until March 20th by a search Squad from the Donaueschingen Barracks. Possible Killers are P-51 Mustangs of 162nd Rcn. Sqn, which operates in Southern Germany.
No matching Claimants at March 20th in the Southwest.

Fred

Rolfeb 10th March 2023 08:13

Re: Pilot Alfred Briefs, searching for details
 
Hi Fred,
good to hear from you. Time to catch up in person and have a good coffee.
I'm in posession of the "Gräber-Kartei". In this document it is written that Briefs was shot down at March 18th and found one day later at March 19th.
This information matches with reports of eye withnesses. Just a few days ago I met an eye withness and his first words were: "It was on a Sunday, I know this beause my father was the teacher in the village of Vöhrenbach and it was our free day". March 18th was a Sunday. In addition this week I met some relatives of Alfred Briefs including the nephew of Alfred Briefs.
All confirmed March 18th.
So I almost beleive it was the 18th.
Talk to you soon in person.
Rolf


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