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kokstok 2nd November 2019 12:08

5 docs for salvaged german planes Schiphol
 
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Hello,

I have got 5 documents for the salvage of damaged German planes on or nearby Schiphol.
What webpage can I use to identify the planes by their Wnrs?

I have got 4x II/JG Udet and one 14.KG 2

Me 410 a1 Wnr 102370 U5+AE

Bf 109 G-6 Wnr 410100 2+schwarz
Bf 109 G-5 Wnr 15946 4+schwarz
Bf 109 G-5 Wnr 19825 4+gelb
Bf 109 G-6 Wnr 19825 4+gelb
Last two looks to be the same, if so it made a crash landing on 10-12-1943 due to engine problems and on 13-12-1943 direct hit by bomb in the hangar while the airfield was bombed (operation Ramrod 362/363)

Thanks in advance,

René

RT 2nd November 2019 12:45

Re: 5 docs for salvaged german planes Schiphol
 
You hv already identified them indeed details here under
18 10 43 BM 5 II JG3 F Schockland N BM BF109G-5 15946 Sw4 30
13 12 43 3 5 JG3 F Schipol FP Bombenwurf BF109G-6 410100 Sw2 RK+LV
13 12 43 3 6 JG3 F Schipol FP Bombenwurf BF109G-5 19825 15
The Me410 Wn you hv given is not valid for that plane, nor the 2370..
19825 no trace of the first damages on 10.th december



Rémi

RT 2nd November 2019 12:51

Re: 5 docs for salvaged german planes Schiphol
 
A pity that's the Wn is prob. wrong on the docs , we hv only partial data on them
26 11 43 V KG2 Schipol FP BR ME410A-1 damaged
26 11 43 V KG2 Schipol FP BR ME410A-1 100 % loss


Rémi

RT 2nd November 2019 13:02

Re: 5 docs for salvaged german planes Schiphol
 
Me410 I type for 10237 !

kokstok 2nd November 2019 13:06

Re: 5 docs for salvaged german planes Schiphol
 
Hello Rémi,

On witch document or databank did you find your information?

Kr, René

TigerTimon 2nd November 2019 14:11

Re: 5 docs for salvaged german planes Schiphol
 
Very interesting documents! Can you also give the crash times? That would be particularly interesting.

Kind regards,

Timon

kokstok 2nd November 2019 15:26

Re: 5 docs for salvaged german planes Schiphol
 
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Originally Posted by TigerTimon (Post 277222)
Very interesting documents! Can you also give the crash times? That would be particularly interesting.

Kind regards,

Timon

Sorry Timon, no crash times, just de date of salvage

RT 2nd November 2019 15:47

Re: 5 docs for salvaged german planes Schiphol
 
Data come from the usual losses returns summarised at the GQM, these docs you could find them at the BAMA, on the internet probably some lists based on these docs exist , but the whole 1944 year is missing, nd it's why we could'nt find any spurs of the losses of the 2 Me410...

Rémi

John Manrho 2nd November 2019 19:20

Re: 5 docs for salvaged german planes Schiphol
 
Rene,

can you provide scans of all 5 documents individually? The same kind of documents can be found in RL19/881 at MA Freiburg. Not sure if I saw these ones before.

John

John Manrho 8th November 2019 21:05

Re: 5 docs for salvaged german planes Schiphol
 
Any chance to see the separate scans...????


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