Abbreviations on charts
Mr. Prien,
I'm reading through volume 9 part III about JG 5, and I have some questions about the charts. In the victory charts, what does N.N. mean? And why, when there is a known pilot, is the victory number sometimes still ( .)? In the loss charts, what do the various abbreviations in the last column mean, i.e. rt. 2 + rt. 4 + ws. 9 + ws. 9 + 1 ge. 11 + ge.10 + 1 sw. << + 1 PD + EG etcetera. Again in in the loss charts, column 4 shows the status of the pilot. I assume that a cross means dead, verw. means wounded, and verl. means missing, but what do these mean? (v.) v. KG (KG) Thank you. |
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Hi Gary,
N.N. means name not known rt. is the abbreviation for rot meaning red ws. = weiss = white ge. = gelb = yellow sw. = schwarz = black The numbers are tactical markings and the bar after the balkenkreuz "+" identifies the gruppe see the following link http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhorta/jgmark.htm ws. 9+I would be White 9 of III.Gruppe PD + EG is what is known as stammkennziechen which are factory codes. verw. means verwundet = wounded verl. means verletz = injured v. means vermissen = missing (v.) means missing but returned later KG. means kampfgefangen = captured (POW) (KG.) probably means captured but escaped later I appologise for any errors with the translation as my German is very poor. Best Regards Andy Fletcher |
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verletzt = injured vermisst = missing KG = Kriegsgefangener = Prisoner of War I worked out what "N.N." meant from the context but as fro the words it stands for: «Name nicht gemeldet» maybe? (name not reported). It would work well in English though ("No Name"). |
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Dear Nick,
the "N.N." is an abbreviation for a person so far not identified; it's origins are Latin for sure although there is some dispute as to what it actually stands for - it can be either " nomen nescio " ( literally translated: " I don't know the name " ) or " nomen nominandum ", which would translate as " name yet to be given ". Apparently the former solution is the more likely one but I have no ways to tell for sure. Be this as it may, "N.N." in German is a common way to name a person whose exact name you don't know, if you pardon me that game with words. Hope this helps. Regards Jochen Prien |
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Does that mean that the original German documents didn't list a victor, or is there some uncertainty for another reason? |
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