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Evgeny Velichko 30th August 2005 17:44

JG54 info need: Karl Brill & Hubert Muterich
 
Hello All!
Has anybody any info about war carrier of Karl Brill.
Also need info about Muterich claims in 1941 at ostfront.

Regards.

Evgeny Velichko 17th September 2005 08:00

Re: JG54 info need: Karl Brill & Hubert Muterich
 
In JG 54 claim lists i found more than 30 his kills, but his fate, awards is unknown.

Also Fritz Celtjen (or Oeltjen) - JG 54 LOSS LIST says he has a lots of kills, but i found just 2 in JULY 1941. Who was he?

nabbe158 17th September 2005 16:14

Re: JG54 info need: Karl Brill & Hubert Muterich
 
Hi!

Oblt. Hubert "Hubs" Mutherich first served with I./JG 77. Knights Cross on 6 Aug 1941 for his 31 kill. Then Staffelkapitän 5./JG54. KIA on 9 Sept 1941 in Bf-109F "Schwartze 10" with 43 kills as JG 54 most sucessful Staffelkapitän. He had 8 RAF, 2 Yugoslavian and 27 Russian a/c kills, the rest I don´t know.

(His Bf-109F made a ground loop during a force-landing following a dogfight with Soviet fighters near Leningrad).

Ltn. Karl Brill, served with IV./JG54 then with JG 7 and achieved a total of 52 kills none with JG 7.

Cheers

John Manrho 17th September 2005 16:33

Re: JG54 info need: Karl Brill & Hubert Muterich
 
Karl Brill, born 20.3.1920, died 19.01.1994. Joined 5./JG 54 in early 1942. Was also with 10./JG 54, 13./JG 54 and JG 7. I believe some 33+ victories are recorded. The 52 kills mentioned in some sources seems on the high side to me.

Evgeny Velichko 19th September 2005 13:11

Re: JG54 info need: Karl Brill & Hubert Muterich
 
Real thanXXXXXXX!!!

No info about Fritz Celtjen (or Oeltjen)?

christian 30th September 2005 21:18

Re: JG54 info need: Karl Brill & Hubert Muterich
 
Hi

Fritz Oeltjen was 1939/40 in the 2.I./JG 21, tranfered to the 7.III./JG 54 1940. 1942 he was in the 5.II./JG 54, then JFS 2 and in the End of the War JG 400.

Christian

Evgeny Velichko 1st October 2005 01:27

Re: JG54 info need: Karl Brill & Hubert Muterich
 
THX! Any info about his awards, score?


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