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edwest 24th August 2008 01:27

German & Allied radar
 
An excellent short overview by an author who is unknown to me:


http://www.radarworld.org/radarwar.pdf




Ed

Peter Spoden 24th August 2008 09:35

Re: German & Allied radar
 
indeed an excellent overview for radar-specialists. Amazing the editors note at the end:

Editors note:
Despite Germanys large technical lead at the beginning of the war, the English
and the US caught up with Germanys radar technology in about 1942 by employing
hug amounts of resources. The MIT Radiation Laboratory alone spent over $2
billion over the five years during the war.6 Only the development of the atom bomb
during WWII could rival by cost an approximate equal amount.
The kill ratio in combat of German Air Force fighters in combat against Allied
aircraft was on the average of 7 to 1 although the Allied aircraft outnumbered the
German aircraft by as much as 10 to 1 and in some cases up to 100 to 1. It is
obvious that the war was not lost because of strategic mistakes or lack of technology
or valor. It was not a question of if the Allies would win the war, most Germans
during the war knew the answer, but “how long would the war last and what would
happen to Europe after the war?”

SES 24th August 2008 11:04

Re: German & Allied radar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest (Post 71711)
An excellent short overview by an author who is unknown to me:


http://www.radarworld.org/radarwar.pdf




Ed

Hi Ed,
It is a very fine find. This kind of info is rarely found on-line.
The author sadly -as usual - have not got HIMMELBETT straight. Please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/Himmelbett.htm

bregds
SES

Kutscha 24th August 2008 11:33

Re: German & Allied radar
 
Some other sites to look at:

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/radar/part4.htm#pgMK3MK4-1
http://www.radarpages.co.uk/index.htm

and

History of Communications-Electronics in the United States Navy
http://earlyradiohistory.us/1963hw.htm

Nick Beale 24th August 2008 18:48

Re: German & Allied radar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Spoden (Post 71723)
indeed an excellent overview for radar-specialists. Amazing the editors note at the end:

Editors note:
Despite Germanys large technical lead at the beginning of the war, the English
and the US caught up with Germanys radar technology in about 1942 by employing
hug amounts of resources. The MIT Radiation Laboratory alone spent over $2
billion over the five years during the war.6 Only the development of the atom bomb
during WWII could rival by cost an approximate equal amount.
The kill ratio in combat of German Air Force fighters in combat against Allied
aircraft was on the average of 7 to 1 although the Allied aircraft outnumbered the
German aircraft by as much as 10 to 1 and in some cases up to 100 to 1. It is
obvious that the war was not lost because of strategic mistakes or lack of technology
or valor. It was not a question of if the Allies would win the war, most Germans
during the war knew the answer, but “how long would the war last and what would
happen to Europe after the war?”

Amazing indeed. When it comes to airborne radar, the RAF's first kill by a radar carrying night fighter was on 22/23 July 1940 (according to "Night Fighters" by Bill Gunston) and the Luftwaffe's was quite a long while later, wasn't it?

Bruce Dennis 25th August 2008 00:54

Re: German & Allied radar
 
The authors comments quoted are in line with the political views expressed in the body of the document.

Having said that, it is a very interesting and useful site for technical information. I am now keen to know more about the statement that German radio transmitters were all retuned to the same frequency at the outbreak of war.

Bruce

edwest 25th August 2008 02:20

Re: German & Allied radar
 
Another site with details about British jamming equipment:

http://www.infoage.org/elec-01-1946-p97-rcm.html



Ed

Franek Grabowski 25th August 2008 03:15

Re: German & Allied radar
 
Political views? It is a Nazi German propaganda! Look what is written there about Polish Campaign or sinking of Bismarck.
Otherwise, I am not sure of accuracy of the text. There are mentioned British pilotless drones in combat use back in late 1944. Never heard of them, but I know that Britain had pilotless aircraft already before the war. The same about captured Polish aircraft with a radar device. This would be just sensational. Also, the text does not mention any samples of British Radar flying control. Apart of defence system, British radars controlled aircraft movements over France, and RAF Squadrons were both warned and directed towards the enemy. I believe this was far superior of German systems of the time.

George Hopp 25th August 2008 03:16

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According to Aders the first German radar kill was completed by Oblt Ludwig Becker, in a Do 215B-5, on 10 August 1941. The a/c carried a prototype Lichtenstein B/C (FuG 202) radar. This radar was initially not to be produced in quantity, since the FuG 212, the production version of the FuG 202, was supposed to be ready for production in Spring 1942. In fact, through company screw-ups, the set wasn't ready for production until mid-1943, and in fact, the FuG 202 was put into production, and produced until 1944.

edwest 25th August 2008 03:26

Re: German & Allied radar
 
What's the mystery about pilotless drones? A few were sent against the U-boat pens in France, and a few were used in an operation called Noball against V-1 ski sites in France.



Ed


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