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Slayer 8th February 2017 11:08

Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Hello! This is a new article from my friend Mikhail Timin about Wolfgang Schellmann:

http://warspot.ru/8282-perekrestok-dvuh-mayorov

Teresa Maria 8th February 2017 12:29

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Thank you for this opportunity to practice my Russian. :-)

sidney 8th February 2017 19:34

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
It is an interesting document, but the published excerpt does not reveal that much... if anything really.

VtwinVince 9th February 2017 18:23

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
As this is an english language forum, I fail to see the relevance of this post.

peter.werry 10th February 2017 04:01

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Hello VtwinVince,
When you download, after 20-30 seconds a "Translate" button will appear top right for the English version, but as Sidney suggests, it does not reveal much.
Regards
Peter

knusel 12th June 2018 10:42

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Good morning Slayer & Co,

as far as I understand the article doesn't reveal when Schellmann upgraded from Bf109C to Bf109D, does it ?

Kind regards,

Michael

PMoz99 12th June 2018 14:14

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VtwinVince (Post 229415)
As this is an english language forum, I fail to see the relevance of this post.

with pretty much any webpage in virtually any foreign language, if you use Google Chrome you can simply right-click on the page and click Translate and it will translate to the language your computer uses by default.
Peter

PMoz99 12th June 2018 15:04

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knusel (Post 253315)
Good morning Slayer & Co,

as far as I understand the article doesn't reveal when Schellmann upgraded from Bf109C to Bf109D, does it ?

Kind regards,

Michael

I don't know if anyone else has anything specific.
All I have is -
There is a photo of Bf109C 6o47 with 1 kill marking on the tail. According to another profile I have, Schellmann flew one with those markings. If it is his, I don't know if he scored the kill in the 109 or not.
He had 3 kills to 24/3/38 per the book link I gave in your Ensslen thread.
I have a profile of Schellmann's Bf109C 6o47 captioned Spring 1938.
His next kills are 13 June and 25 June 1938, and there is a profile of his D-1 6o51 (supposedly the first D-1 delivered to Spain) captioned June 1938 with 4 kill markings on the tail.
Peter

John Beaman 12th June 2018 16:57

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VtwinVince (Post 229415)
As this is an english language forum, I fail to see the relevance of this post.

The rule is English only except when quoting from an original wartime document.

knusel 12th June 2018 20:12

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Good evening Peter,

if we take the info given in Robert Forsyth's "Aces of the Legion Condor" at face value Schellmann's Bf109C score must've been one (his 4th) because the subtype arrived at Spain in April (p93) wheras the D arrived "as spring gave way to summer" (p94). Schellmann's June Bf109D is depicted with 4 kill bars.
Irritatingly, the 6-47 with one kill bar doesn't fit in. Either it was flown successfully by another guy or it arrived before April.

Cheers,

Michael

sidney 12th June 2018 21:18

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
I shall take no credit for this, but 6-47 was a Bf 109 B, not Bf 109 C - the position of the oxygen filler and electrical socket on the starboard side of the aircraft under the cockpit reveals that. In fact, the Bf 109 C was probably never delivered to Spain, and the last Bf 109 B delivered to Legion Condor was 6-60.

6-61 to 6-86 were Bf 109 D-1s, and so was the case with the aircraft designated 6-95, 6-96 and 6-97.

And all this discussion has little to do with the Interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann.

knusel 13th June 2018 09:41

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Good morning Sidney,

you mean the subtype designations given here
https://books.google.de/books?id=dEn...llmann&f=false
are wrong ? (6-1 to 6-3 V; 6-4 to 6-45 B; 6-46 to 6-50 C; 6-51 to 6-86 D; 6-87 to 6-131 E)

I wonder if Schellmann was the top Bf109C pilot and if he ever mentioned that subtype.

Kind regards,

Michael

PMoz99 13th June 2018 13:02

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sidney (Post 253355)
I shall take no credit for this, but 6-47 was a Bf 109 B, not Bf 109 C - the position of the oxygen filler and electrical socket on the starboard side of the aircraft under the cockpit reveals that. In fact, the Bf 109 C was probably never delivered to Spain, and the last Bf 109 B delivered to Legion Condor was 6-60.

6-61 to 6-86 were Bf 109 D-1s, and so was the case with the aircraft designated 6-95, 6-96 and 6-97.

And all this discussion has little to do with the Interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann.

Thanks Sidney. I only have a low quality photo of the port side .....
And yes, we strayed off-topic. Apologies for that.
Peter

knusel 13th June 2018 14:31

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Hello,

if 6-47 isn't a Bf109C, isn't it Schellmann's machine either ?

Michael

sidney 13th June 2018 18:45

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knusel (Post 253367)
Good morning Sidney,

you mean the subtype designations given here
https://books.google.de/books?id=dEn...llmann&f=false
are wrong ? (6-1 to 6-3 V; 6-4 to 6-45 B; 6-46 to 6-50 C; 6-51 to 6-86 D; 6-87 to 6-131 E)

....

Kind regards,

Michael


Good afternoon Michael,

What I am saying here is that based on the photographic evidence some correction to the above list would be in order.

I would also propose that a new thread is opened in the pre-WW2 section, so we can discuss it further there.

Regards,
Sinisa

knusel 14th June 2018 15:35

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Good afternoon Sinisa,

Peter has opened the thread you propose.
Maybe we'll succeed in nailing down Schellmann's Bf109C score.
We'll keep at it.

Best greetings from Brandenburg,

Michael

sidney 15th June 2018 15:18

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Good Afternoon Michael,

That is great, I will try to provide the necessary photographic evidence to support my comments above.

Best Regards aus Dublin,
Sinisa

knusel 19th June 2018 10:58

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Good morning Sidney,

has Schellmann's Spain logbook survived ?

Best greetings from the continent,

Michael

fran 14th August 2018 15:31

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Yes, I have it, but regrettably no fuse codes were recorded



Quote:

Originally Posted by knusel (Post 253649)
Good morning Sidney,

has Schellmann's Spain logbook survived ?

Best greetings from the continent,

Michael


knusel 15th August 2018 14:54

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Good afternoon Fran,

does he mention the Bf109 subtype (B/C/D) in his logbook ?

Kind regards from Brandenburg,

Michael

fran 19th August 2018 00:00

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Hello,
No, only mention of the type

Regards from Spain
Fran


Quote:

Originally Posted by knusel (Post 256475)
Good afternoon Fran,

does he mention the Bf109 subtype (B/C/D) in his logbook ?

Kind regards from Brandenburg,

Michael


knusel 19th August 2018 09:00

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Good morning Fran,

thanks for checking.
Is the Spanish Civil War a special interest of yours ?

Michael

Chris Goss 20th August 2018 17:02

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Michael: I think the country in which he lives and the badge on his posts are confirmation of where his interest lies!

knusel 21st August 2018 09:56

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Yes, he mentioned his country.
I also just found the meaning of his badge.

knusel 5th September 2018 14:27

Re: Transcript of interrogation of Wolfgang Schellmann
 
Good afternoon,

this photo shows 6-47 with 1 kill bar.
https://www.google.de/search?hl=de&b...=1536150221189
This photo shows 6-51 with 2 kill bars:
https://www.google.de/search?q=wolfg...=1536150348568
Does that mean that Wolfgang Schellmanns' maximum Bf109C score is 2 ? (or 0 if 6-47 is a Bf109B?)

Michael


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