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focusfocus 17th February 2019 09:18

ZG1 losses (?) july 1943
 
Hello all

What are the losses (?) of I/ZG.1 and Pz.Jag.St/ZG1 in the region of Krasnokovo (60 km of Orel) on 15/07/43 and 16/07/43?

Regards
Michel

Rottler 18th February 2019 22:12

Re: ZG1 losses (?) july 1943
 
Hello Michel,

in the Gen.Qu. loss returns the following losses and damages in mid July 1943 are listed:

I./ZG 1
12.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6113 1./ZG 1 100%
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6111 2./ZG 1 25%
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6292 3./ZG 1 15%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6327 I./ZG 1 100%
14.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 5107 I./ZG 1 100%
18.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 5207 2./ZG 1 25%
21.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 2698 1./ZG 1 80% (Petrick/Mankau, Messerschmitt Bf 110/Me 210/Me 410: a GWF built Bf 110 F-4)

Pz.Jg.St./ZG 1
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6252 100%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6285 15%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6289 70%
14.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 5202 100% (Petrick/Mankau, Messerschmitt Bf 110/Me 210/Me 410: a GWF built Bf 110 G-2)
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6297 100%
22.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 5236 30%

Regards
Leo

focusfocus 19th February 2019 10:34

Re: ZG1 losses (?) july 1943
 
Thank you Leo

In the light of no losses on July 15 and 16,the claims (four) of the GC "Normandie" are unfounded,wich raises some questions about the seriousness of these claims....they seem to have taken their "desires" with reality.

Best Regards
Michel

Courtois Laurent 2nd April 2021 17:23

Re: ZG1 losses (?) july 1943
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by focusfocus (Post 265201)
Thank you Leo

In the light of no losses on July 15 and 16,the claims (four) of the GC "Normandie" are unfounded,wich raises some questions about the seriousness of these claims....they seem to have taken their "desires" with reality.

Best Regards
Michel

Hello Michel,

some doubts also for those of July 14th. The Soviets only validate one for Béguin and Albert's second is questionable.

Courtois Laurent 2nd April 2021 17:25

Re: ZG1 losses (?) july 1943
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rottler (Post 265189)
Hello Michel,

in the Gen.Qu. loss returns the following losses and damages in mid July 1943 are listed:

I./ZG 1
12.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6113 1./ZG 1 100%
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6111 2./ZG 1 25%
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6292 3./ZG 1 15%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6327 I./ZG 1 100%
14.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 5107 I./ZG 1 100%
18.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 5207 2./ZG 1 25%
21.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 2698 1./ZG 1 80% (Petrick/Mankau, Messerschmitt Bf 110/Me 210/Me 410: a GWF built Bf 110 F-4)

Pz.Jg.St./ZG 1
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6252 100%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6285 15%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6289 70%
14.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 5202 100% (Petrick/Mankau, Messerschmitt Bf 110/Me 210/Me 410: a GWF built Bf 110 G-2)
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6297 100%
22.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 5236 30%

Regards
Leo

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