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Andrey Kuznetsov 7th November 2018 12:43

Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945
 
Hello,


what means the data in form of "xx-xx-xx-xx" in the "Besatzungen" (Crews) column in Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945?


For example II./SG1 18:00 4.Feb.1945: 35-34-29-1


Best regards,
Andrey

John Manrho 9th November 2018 21:08

Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945
 
I believe the following;

35 = Ist-Bestand (number of pilots)
34 = Einsatzbereit (operational fit)
29 = Verfügbar (available, some pilots were away from the unit)
1 = not sure about the last column.....Bedingt Verfügbar (?)

Regards,

John

Andrey Kuznetsov 10th November 2018 12:05

Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945
 
Thank you, John!


So, only 4th column still unclear.


Kind regards,
Andrey

PMoz99 11th November 2018 02:32

Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrey Kuznetsov (Post 260509)
Thank you, John!


So, only 4th column still unclear.


Kind regards,
Andrey

A straight translation might be "conditionally available".
So the aircraft is available but subject to flying or mission conditions?
Peter

John Manrho 11th November 2018 18:14

Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945
 
This is only about crew, not about aircraft

Andrei Demjanko 11th November 2018 19:55

Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945
 
I think that the first column means Sollstärke (authorized strength) and the second column Iststärke (actual strength), so the third column could mean Einsatzbereit

Norbert Schuchbauer 11th November 2018 20:52

Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945
 
Flugzeugführer:

1st: Soll (authorized strength)
2nd: Ist (actual strength)
3rd: Einsatzbereit (combat ready)
4th: Bedingt Einsatzbereit (conditional combat ready)


Regards,
Norbert

John Manrho 11th November 2018 22:00

Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945
 
Norbert/Andrei,

Soll-Stärke is of course normally listed but not in the specific Lfl. 6 reports Andrey is referring to.

John

sidney 11th November 2018 22:20

Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945
 
Just a quick query.

I thought that 3rd: Einsatzbereit (combat ready) + 4th: Bedingt Einsatzbereit (conditional combat ready) equals 2nd: Ist (actual strength). However, from the LW strength report of 13 April 1945 (widely circulated), that is apparently not necessarily the case.

So, who are these pilots covered under the 4th: Bedingt Einsatzbereit? Replacement pilots?

Sinisa

John Manrho 11th November 2018 23:38

Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945
 
We are drifting of topic here imho....the Strength Reports of Lfl.6 KTB that Andrey is referring to in his initial post/question do NOT list SOLL-Stärken, neither for a/c or for personnel.

J.


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