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edwest2 20th October 2019 23:33

RAAF Black Cats
 
Listed as temporarily unavailable. Perhaps someone has info about another outlet?


https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse...-9781760633066


Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Michael Louey 21st October 2019 02:57

Re: RAAF Black Cats
 
I'm suprised it's listed as out of stock. It's been quite visible at most of the local Australian bookstores - I'm reading it right now.


I got mine from the local Dymock's chain which shows it as available.


https://www.dymocks.com.au/book/raaf...-9781760633066


Regards


Michael

Edward 21st October 2019 05:55

Re: RAAF Black Cats
 
Also available from Book Depository (free shipping)

https://www.bookdepository.com/Raaf-...0026476&sr=1-1

edwest2 21st October 2019 18:28

Re: RAAF Black Cats
 
Thank you both.


Ed

Stig Jarlevik 22nd October 2019 00:16

Re: RAAF Black Cats
 
....and?....what about it??

I have already an Oz Cat book by David Vincent.

Does this one change anything or just give additional details about personal and specific mission details?

Cheers
Stig

edwest2 22nd October 2019 01:09

Re: RAAF Black Cats
 
Hello Stig,


Can you provide the full title of the Oz Cat book?


Best,
Ed

Stig Jarlevik 22nd October 2019 01:24

Re: RAAF Black Cats
 
Ooops Ed (sorry)

Sure I can

Catalina Chronicle A history of RAAF operations: David Vincent
ISBN 0 9596052 0 7 (no publishing year mentioned, but first edition)

Cheers
Stig

bearoutwest 22nd October 2019 04:09

Re: RAAF Black Cats
 
David Vincent's "Catalina Chronicle" is the best overview of RAAF Catalina operations available.

RAAF Black Cats specializes in the anti-shipping mining operations and is a homage to the the author's brother.
(Also available through the Big-W department stores in Australia. Try their website, Big-W might post overseas?)

- and K-Mart in Aus:

https://www.kmart.com.au/product/raa...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

...geoff

Col Bruggy 22nd October 2019 08:44

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Hello,

One of the best books on the joint RAAF/US Mining campaign to date is Robert (Bob) Cleworth's:

The Night Shift: The Story of the RAAF Minelaying Catalinas that departed 'at the going down of the sun' taking over the night shift from other participants to neutralize the Japanese gains of mineral and oil resources in coalition with the US 7th Fleet 22 April 1943 - 1 July 1945,
Cleworth,Joseph Robert (Bob), MPhil.
Hill Top (NSW):Author,2015.

Based on material and evidence uncovered in research for a thesis that was awarded a Master of Philosophy Degree, 'BEWARE THIS HARBOR IS MINED', 2/Lt Douglas MacArthur, Manila, P.I. March 1904

Quite a mouthful, but the soft covered A4 book of 272 pages, consists of 16 chapters of details of the RAAF mining campaign. The book has a comprehensive bibliography, an adequate index, extensive endnotes and has many charts, maps, tables and photos.

I haven't received my copy of Cleworth's, The RAAF Black Cats, as yet, so I can't make a direct comparision of the contents. Be interesting to see what Cleworth has retained/discarded from his new title.

The Night Shift is still obtainable (at a reasonable price, not the grossly inflated sum wanted by some dealers) from the Rathmines Catalina Association. https://rathmines-catalina.com can't be more specific at the moment - got privacy issues with the site.

Stig, the first edition of David Vincent's Catalina Chronicle was published by the Catalina National Committee in October, 1978. A second printing was published by the same organisation in November, 1981.

Col.

Orwell1984 22nd October 2019 15:18

Re: RAAF Black Cats
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Col Bruggy (Post 276637)
Hello,

One of the best books on the joint RAAF/US Mining campaign to date is Robert (Bob) Cleworth's:

The Night Shift: The Story of the RAAF Minelaying Catalinas that departed 'at the going down of the sun' taking over the night shift from other participants to neutrlaize the Japanese gains of mineral and oil resources in coalition with the US 7th Fleet 22 April 1943 - 1 July 1945,
Cleworth,Joseph Robert (Bob), MPhil.
Hill Top (NSW):Author,2015.

Based on material and evidence uncovered in research for a thesis that was awarded a Master of Philosophy Degree, 'BEWARE THIS HARBOR IS MINED', 2/Lt Douglas MacArthur, Manila, P.I. March 1904

Quite a mouthful, but the soft covered A4 book of 272 pages, consists of 16 chapters of details of the RAAF mining campaign. The book has a comprehensive bibliography, an adequate index, extensive endnotes and has many charts, maps, tables and photos.

I haven't received my copy of Cleworth's, The RAAF Black Cats, as yet, so I can't make a direct comparision of the contents. Be interesting to see what Cleworth has retained/discarded from his new title.

The Night Shift is still obtainable (at a reasonable price, not the grossly inflated sum wanted by some dealers) from the Rathmines Catalina Association. https://rathmines-catalina.com can't be more specific at the moment - got privacy issues with the site.

Stig, the first edition of David Vincent's Catalina Chronicle was published by the Catalina National Committee in October, 1978. A second printing was published by the same organisation in November, 1981.

Col.


Thanks so much for this information Col. I've ordered a copy of The Night Shift as well as one of Cats At War (another one only available at ridiculous prices elsewhere) from them. Just waiting to hear on postage to Canada. Now I just need to find the Vincent book at a not too insane price and I'm set.

edwest2 22nd October 2019 17:26

Re: RAAF Black Cats
 
This sort of exchange should happen more often. What is common in Australia may not be in North America or Europe. Specialty books and private printings being good examples of very little, outside the home country/region, publicity.


Regards,
Ed

bearoutwest 8th November 2019 08:36

Re: RAAF Black Cats
 
Just a bit of feedback on successfully purchasing a copy of "The Night Shift" from the Rathmines Catalina Association.
- Received the book today.
- Rathmines-Catalina Memorial Park Association, to use their full name (RCMPA for short), are currently having difficulties with their PayPal internet-shop payment system. It seems to be a significant problem as the fix is still being investigated after the 10 days since I originally spoke to them.
- I contacted them, via the contact details on their web-page, and was able to happily arrange an alternate payment option.
- Book arrived today - a standard "self-publish" A4 paperback style - but looks good.


More details, once I've read it.


As an aside, as part of the enjoyable rambling aviation/seaplanes phone conversation with the RCMPA president (he answered the phone), I highlighted the apparent interest people have in the "Catalina Chronicles" book by David Vincent. RCMPA are looking into the possibilities of arranging for it to be re-printed. (Though, don't hold your breathe, as it may be a long winded process getting the appropriate authorization to re-print.) Will report if/when any further developments occur.


...geoff

Orwell1984 7th December 2019 19:45

Re: RAAF Black Cats
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orwell1984 (Post 276657)
Thanks so much for this information Col. I've ordered a copy of The Night Shift as well as one of Cats At War (another one only available at ridiculous prices elsewhere) from them. Just waiting to hear on postage to Canada. Now I just need to find the Vincent book at a not too insane price and I'm set.


Both books have now arrived safe here in Canada.


Thanks again to Col. for the contact information.
Very much appreciated for the library editions!


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