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Larry Hickey 4th January 2005 07:47

Identity of Hurricane shot down about May, 1940, France?
 
Can anyone identify this Hurricane which appears to have crash-landed during the French Campaign. It appears to have an aircraft letter of "X" or "R?" It was sold on eBay last weekend to "sudek13."

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEDW:IT

Thanks,

Larry Hickey

markjsheppard 4th January 2005 20:27

Larry

Unfortunately cannot make out the serial. could be P3300? although could not zoom in to read it.

Difficult task. About 200 Hurricanes were lost between 11May and 18th June and many of the record cards indicate France with no unit designation. This was the same problem I had with P3351 when I was researching it. It was listed with 73 Sqn from 18th June 1940 but actually joined the unit on the 2nd June 1940.

Could it br a K?

Nice photo though.

regards

Mark

Larry 5th January 2005 00:20

Hurricane In France
 
I agree that it certainly looks like P3300, which was lost in France in 1940 without proper records showing its allocation to a Squadron. The second possibility is P3390 also 'lost in France May 1940'. It could have been P3320 but that Hurricane went on to serve in the FAA. All the other P33.. numbers show losses or SOC dates etc at different times.

P is the most likely first letter of the serial as N3300 was a Miles M.9 prototype followed by a batch of Defiants using N3306 etc and R3303 etc were Ansons. As the wings are not fabric its unlikely to be an L and anyway L3300 was in a batch of Hawker Henleys!

The code letter could be an R if you think that the top of the vertical gets wider on the right, where it would continue out to complete the loop of the letter. Its hard to say whether you can see more or the R through the ripped fabric. It could be K with a 'bent right leg' (similar to Russian style code letters carried by Hurricanes in Russia) but I am less convinced.

Note the variation to the fin stripes, which are post 1st May 1940 but of equal width, rather than having the red cover a large patch of the forward fin. These equal width stripes were also seen on Fairey Battles in France at the time.

robert_schulte 5th January 2005 08:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hickey
Can anyone identify this Hurricane which appears to have crash-landed during the French Campaign. It appears to have an aircraft letter of "X" or "R?" It was sold on eBay last weekend to "sudek13."

Larry,
if this could be of any help, I could provide you with an email-address of the buyer, I sold her (!) some pictures last year. Perhaps she knows more about the photo.
Please contact me off-board if you like.
Regards
Robert

Faenor 2nd September 2017 22:09

Re: Identity of Hurricane shot down about May, 1940, France?
 
Hi all,

can you please share with me this photo - I have 3 photos on probably same Hurricane with marking P3300.

Thanks

Faenor

Faenor 10th February 2018 07:35

Re: Identity of Hurricane shot down about May, 1940, France?
 
Hi all,

are there some new information about Hurricane P300 and his allocation to RAF squadron?

During my searching about Hurricanes (just from books and interent - as you know), close serial number of Hurricanes from same batch are allocate to the 151.SQ - example:
P3301 force landing 31.8.1940 at Foulness during BoF
http://www.bbm.org.uk/airmen/Czajkowski.htm

P3302 - lost 12.8.1940 during BoF
http://www.bbm.org.uk/airmen/TuckerAB.htm

P3303 - lost 29.5.1940 over Dunkirk, pilot F/O K.E. Newton bailed out and was rescued by a hospital ship

P3304 - lost 12.8.1940 during BoB
http://www.bbm.org.uk/airmen/Beley.htm

Is possible, that somebody can check some docuemnts about 151. SQ from May/June, if there is some info about this Hurricane.

Thanks

Faenor

Faenor 12th February 2018 08:16

Re: Identity of Hurricane shot down about May, 1940, France?
 
Hi all,

can somebody share with me some documents from March-June 1940 of 151. SQ or help me where and when I can order them?

Thanks Faenor

Smithy 12th February 2018 08:50

Re: Identity of Hurricane shot down about May, 1940, France?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Faenor (Post 247476)
Hi all,

can somebody share with me some documents from March-June 1940 of 151. SQ or help me where and when I can order them?

Thanks Faenor

Here you go Faenor...

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go..._dt=SQ&_no=151

This is all the monthly 151 Sqn ORB documents available for download for 1940 from the National Archives. Each is around £3.50.

Hope that helps,

Tim

Smithy 12th February 2018 08:53

Re: Identity of Hurricane shot down about May, 1940, France?
 
Also before I forget just be aware that for each month with an ORB there is usually a "Record of Events" and a "Summary of Events" so two documents for each month.

Faenor 13th February 2018 08:07

Re: Identity of Hurricane shot down about May, 1940, France?
 
Hi Smithy,

thanks - I will try it during weekend.

Have a nice day

FAenor


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