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robert 25th December 2007 21:18

RAF fighter losses on the 14.06.40
 
Hi,

I wonder if somebody could help me with RAF fighter losses suffered on the 14.06.40:
- 242 Sqn P/O Stansfeld 16.05 hours lost to Bf110s from the III/ZG26, I`m looking for serial and information if they were other RAF losses?
- 1 Sqn F/L Brown and F/L Warcup - I`m looking for serial, place, time and reason of these losses
And general question if another losses were recorded on this day.

TIA

Regards

Robert

Peter Cornwell 26th December 2007 08:42

Re: RAF fighter losses on the 14.06.40
 
Hello Robert,

The only RAF fighter losses I have on 14 June, 1940, are as follows:

BRITISH AIR FORCES IN FRANCE

1 SQUADRON, NANTES-CHÂTEAU BOUGON

Hurricane. Failed to return from shipping escort patrol over St-Nazaire, details not recorded. Flight Lieutenant F. Warcup baled out and captured. Aircraft a write-off.

Hurricane. Failed to return from shipping escort patrol over St Nazaire, details not recorded. Flight Lieutenant M. H. Brown baled out unhurt. Aircraft a write-off.

242 SQUADRON, LE MANS

Hurricane. Became separated and lost bearings following combat with Bf110s of 9./ZG26 over Conches 4.05 p.m. Wrecked undercarriage by hitting a ditch during forced-landing near Blain, north of Nantes. Pilot Officer N. K. Stansfeld unhurt. Aircraft a write-off.

robert 26th December 2007 10:42

Re: RAF fighter losses on the 14.06.40
 
Hi Peter,

thanks for information.

Regards

Robert

Bernard 26th December 2007 11:45

Re: RAF fighter losses on the 14.06.40
 
Hello Robert and Peter,

I do agree with Peter's answer excepted that F/Lt M H Brown didn' t bale out but force landed near Caen.


Air 2/6085 :Since the beginning of the war Flight Lieutenant Brown has destroyed at least sixteen enemy aircraft. On 14th June, when leading his flight on patrol, he encountered nine enemy bombers, two of which were destroyed. Later he attacked nine Messerschmitt 109s, destroying one and driving the remainder off. As a result of bullets entering his aircraft he force landed near Caen, and was unable to rejoin the squadron before it withdrew from France. Flight Lieutenant Brown has shown courage of the highest order, and has led many flights with great success and determination when consistently outnumbered by enemy aircraft.


Peter I am looking forward to read your book.


Cheers.


Bernard.

robert 26th December 2007 12:03

Re: RAF fighter losses on the 14.06.40
 
Hi Bernard,


it`s very interesting. Thanks a lot.

Regards

Robert

Alex Smart 26th December 2007 14:23

Re: RAF fighter losses on the 14.06.40
 
Hi,
From what I have-
73Sqn lost P/O D N W Anthony killed.
1 Sqn lost two a/c pilots Brown & Warcup.
245 Sqn one a/c
111 Sqn one a/c

Alex

robert 26th December 2007 17:44

Re: RAF fighter losses on the 14.06.40
 
Hi Alex,

Are you sure about this one from 111 Sqn?

Regards

Robert

Peter Cornwell 27th December 2007 09:46

Re: RAF fighter losses on the 14.06.40
 
Alex,

P/O D. N. W. L. Anthony of No. 73 Squadron crashed on landing at Ruaudin on June 13, 1940, and was badly injured. He died the following day.

Also, I suspect that the No. 245 Squadron loss you have listed is a transcription error & is actually the No. 242 Squadron casualty mentioned in my earlier post.

I have no record of any No. 111 Squadron losses on June 14, 1940.

Bernard,

Thank you for the information regarding F/Lt 'Hilly' Brown of No. 1 Squadron. With details of his loss lacking in the ORB (NAPRO: AIR27/1) I had relied on Shaw's 'Twice Vertical' p150.

Alex Smart 27th December 2007 15:23

Re: RAF fighter losses on the 14.06.40
 
Hello Robert,

I accept there may have been an error with the 245 and 242 but I had these numbers written down for some time now and do not recall at this time the references.
As for 111 sqn this may well have been an accident and the a/c returned to service or the pilot may have been injured. I just cannot recall.

Alex

robert 27th December 2007 15:52

Re: RAF fighter losses on the 14.06.40
 
OK Alex,

I just wanted to see your sources.

Regards

Robert


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