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Del Davis 5th March 2007 02:45

Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Dr. Prien
When can we expect publication of the three elements of Volume 10? Your last post on the subject stated an expectation of publication at year end 2006.

edwest 18th March 2007 04:09

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 9 / III
 
Although mentioned above under JFV 10/I, here is the Christian Schmidt announcement:


http://www.christian-schmidt-fachbuc...oducts_id=4841



Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Del Davis 28th June 2007 00:16

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Any news as to release date

Rasmussen 28th June 2007 17:14

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Yesterday I've talked with an person from struve-druck and he told me that the first volume will be delivered in the end of July/ begin of August 2007 ... probably.

Best wishes
Rasmussen

Del Davis 28th June 2007 17:27

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
thank you

Jochen Prien 2nd July 2007 10:47

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Gentlemen,

it is sad but it is true that the publication date had to be postponed over and over again owing to the fact that with official source material from the USAAF coming in late a lot of contradicting information has come up that needs to be scrutinized in detail and cross checked and eventually worked into the manuscript. Also there are still eight out of about 35 maps / track charts pending. So, I hope it will be August in the end. I'm very sorry to keep you waiting for so long this time but I hope that you will bear with me that there is no point in rushing things at the risk of publishing a book with avoidable mistakes. I do also hope that at the end of the day the result will make good for your patience.

Regards

Jochen Prien

leonventer 2nd July 2007 21:52

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jochen Prien (Post 45839)
I hope that you will bear with me that there is no point in rushing things at the risk of publishing a book with avoidable mistakes.

Absolutely. We appreciate your dedication and your consistently high standards, and we'll still be here when you complete JFV 10/I to your satisfaction.

Keep up the great work!

Regards,
Leon Venter

Jochen Prien 22nd August 2007 14:15

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Gentlemen,

after a seemingly endless chain of delays from all sorts of reasons I can now inform you that the completely revised and augmented manuscript and material of Vol. 10/I of the Jagdfliegerverbände series is in print and will hopefully be available by mid / late September 2007.

The Volume will comprise appr. 500 pages, 43 maps and over 200 photos including a number of hitherto unpublished images, the latter mostly from JG's 3, 11 and Süd/50.

Let us hope that no more problems will arise and that we will finally be able to present the latest Volume as envisaged here.

Regards

Jochen Prien

Dénes Bernád 23rd August 2007 16:21

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jochen Prien (Post 49272)
The Volume will comprise appr. 500 pages, 43 maps and over 200 photos including a number of hitherto unpublished images, the latter mostly from JG's 3, 11 and Süd/50.

Is this correct, 200 photos? Previous volumes have much higher photo count.

Jochen Prien 24th August 2007 11:57

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Yes, it is correct since the text and the maps take a lot of the space allowed by the publisher who doesn't want future volumes to exceed 500 pages for technical reasons and the desired durabilty of the books. Bigger volumes are difficult ( and obviously more expensive ) to produce in a way that they don't fall apart before too long.

The exact number of photos in Vol. 10/I will be 210. In Volumes 10/II and III there will be enough to make the overall number of photos something around 1.000 or more.

Kind regards

Jochen Prien

Cpt_Farrel 3rd September 2007 20:21

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
A question regarding Vol 10... I'm doing some research for some decals and I'm looking for a list of Friedrich Eberle's kills in the last half of 1943 and early 1944. Is the units' kills listed just like in Vol.9 and if so, in which of the books in Vol 10 will cover III./JG1?

I've just started getting into this series and I think it's excellent by the way! (It's making me brush up on my german which is usefule too!)

Thanks in advance! / Anders

Jochen Prien 4th September 2007 17:16

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Dear Anders,

The claims list for III./JG 1 will be in Vol. 10 / II as far as 1943 is concerned and in Vol. 13 for the 1944 period. Hope this helps and thank you for the flowers.

Regards

Jochen Prien

Jim P. 4th September 2007 23:58

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Dr. Prien,

A question if I may - the early volumes of the current series carried the 109 related losses for the Schlactgruppen for the BoB and Balkans. Is it your intent at all to continue with these for the later years? And/or the 109 recon units that flew the 109/190?

Cpt_Farrel 5th September 2007 08:48

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Thanks! I'll propably get them all sooner or later, but it's good to know what to expect!

/Anders


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jochen Prien (Post 49985)
Dear Anders,

The claims list for III./JG 1 will be in Vol. 10 / II as far as 1943 is concerned and in Vol. 13 for the 1944 period. Hope this helps and thank you for the flowers.

Regards

Jochen Prien


Jochen Prien 5th September 2007 10:20

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Dear Jim P.,

no, it is not our intent to further include the service of the Schlachtgruppen nor of the reconnaissance units ( F, H or NAG ) although it is definitely tempting since both types of units were involved in aerial combats and reported a substantial number of claims. But for the time being it would be just too much to deal with. To be honest, we had some discussions amongst the team whether or not to include II.(S)/LG2 at all and finally arrived at the solution that you can see - the Gruppe is dealt with until the end of the Balkans Campaign and no further. This was born out by the fact that we had researched it up to that point and didn't want to waste what we had found. Surely not exactly a logical argument but then I think it didn't do the whole thing any harm.

I personally have been contemplating doing something on the Bf 109's in recce units as I have quite a lot of interesting material on that subject, but for the time being it is the JFV series which has absolute priority, if I ever live to see it reaching the end. So, no promises made with respect to the recce units.

Regards

Jochen Prien

Bogdan 29th October 2007 11:47

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Dear Mr Prien
Please tell me when I will see an english translation for this books?
Also. shall I hope I will ever see any?
Also, which is more detail in daily returns , daily order of battle and losess, this 10 volume books or the books treating each Geschwader apart?
Please respond at any length you wish
Kind regards, Bogdan

Jochen Prien 15th November 2007 18:26

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Dear Bogdan,

excuse me for this late response; to answer your questions I can at the moment only comment as follows:

1) The question of an English translation of the JFV series remains open with no further development since my last information, i.e. nothing has been signed and sealed so far.

2) The claims and loss lists are basically identical in the unit histories and the JFV series, the latter being up-dated with what additional information and corrections became available between the publication of the unit histories and the coverage of the same units in the JFV series. For instance, the first Volume of the JG 53 unit history appeared back in 1989, almost 18 years ago. Since then many new sources have been unearthed and the additional information has been inserted into the JFV series. This is an ongoing process also with the JFV series that was started in the year 2000, again already seven years ago resulting in a number of additions and corrections concerning - amongst other - the claims and loss lists of the earlier volumes.

Hope this helps

Regards

Jochen Prien

Nokose 22nd December 2008 07:53

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Dear Dr. Prien,
Is the next volume still on track for mid Jan 2009

Jochen Prien 31st December 2008 23:45

Re: Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 10
 
Let's say January, to be on the safe side.

Happy new year and

regards

Jochen Prien


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